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2011-08-07, 09:17 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Walking the Way: A Swordsage's Handbook [Under Construction again]
Don't untyped bonuses stack? They shouldn't be considered from the same source since it's 2 different classes...
'Do you know who I am? I'm the man who's gonna burn your house down! With the lemons! I'm gonna get my engineers to invent a combustible lemon that burns your house down!' - Johnson, Cave.
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2011-08-07, 09:19 PM (ISO 8601)
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2011-08-07, 09:28 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Walking the Way: A Swordsage's Handbook [Under Construction again]
Besides, if we're going by RAW, you can't qualify for both at the same time.
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2011-08-07, 11:32 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Walking the Way: A Swordsage's Handbook [Under Construction again]
Facepalm.
Moar derps
This is what I get for posting in a minmax thread without being a rules lawyer.
Dang, so swordsage doesn't really get anything of note from monk.'Do you know who I am? I'm the man who's gonna burn your house down! With the lemons! I'm gonna get my engineers to invent a combustible lemon that burns your house down!' - Johnson, Cave.
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2011-08-07, 11:34 PM (ISO 8601)
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2011-08-07, 11:42 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Walking the Way: A Swordsage's Handbook [Under Construction again]
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2011-08-07, 11:58 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Walking the Way: A Swordsage's Handbook [Under Construction again]
... MONKS GET POWER ATACK?
(or did you mean some other PA?)'Do you know who I am? I'm the man who's gonna burn your house down! With the lemons! I'm gonna get my engineers to invent a combustible lemon that burns your house down!' - Johnson, Cave.
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2011-08-07, 11:59 PM (ISO 8601)
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2011-08-08, 02:27 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Walking the Way: A Swordsage's Handbook [Under Construction again]
Thank you. This would be downright NASTY if Shocktrooper didn't require BAB +6.
'Do you know who I am? I'm the man who's gonna burn your house down! With the lemons! I'm gonna get my engineers to invent a combustible lemon that burns your house down!' - Johnson, Cave.
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2011-08-08, 02:28 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Walking the Way: A Swordsage's Handbook [Under Construction again]
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2011-08-08, 03:40 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Walking the Way: A Swordsage's Handbook [Under Construction again]
Gives you 2 prereqs for shocktrooper just in time for you to take your next feat, only thing you wouldn't have would be BAB requirement. But you probably knew that so I am assuming youre confused as to why I think it would be powerful. I don't really. I just thought it would be really cool. It's really a shame monk is one of the few melees who can't make full use of this. Also. THREAD DERAILING ALERT.
Lol.Last edited by marcielle; 2011-08-08 at 03:50 AM.
'Do you know who I am? I'm the man who's gonna burn your house down! With the lemons! I'm gonna get my engineers to invent a combustible lemon that burns your house down!' - Johnson, Cave.
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2011-08-08, 04:10 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Walking the Way: A Swordsage's Handbook [Under Construction again]
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2011-08-08, 04:24 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Walking the Way: A Swordsage's Handbook [Under Construction again]
'Do you know who I am? I'm the man who's gonna burn your house down! With the lemons! I'm gonna get my engineers to invent a combustible lemon that burns your house down!' - Johnson, Cave.
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2011-08-08, 04:26 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Walking the Way: A Swordsage's Handbook [Under Construction again]
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2011-08-08, 08:09 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Walking the Way: A Swordsage's Handbook [Under Construction again]
I know, but like I said, I'm just gonna concede at this point.
http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=137260
Latest form(that I know of) of the 'get every level 9 maneuver build'.
Thought it would be worth digging up since it uses mainly swordsage as the base.'Do you know who I am? I'm the man who's gonna burn your house down! With the lemons! I'm gonna get my engineers to invent a combustible lemon that burns your house down!' - Johnson, Cave.
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2011-08-09, 08:51 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Walking the Way: A Swordsage's Handbook [Under Construction again]
I'm adding a section on multiclassing now.
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2011-08-09, 09:07 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Walking the Way: A Swordsage's Handbook [Under Construction again]
Do you need anything written for it?
I've written up some incomplete notes that I just never got around to finishing. I also wrote up a multiclassing section for the Crusader Handbook, some of which might be portable/helpful here.
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2011-08-09, 09:39 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Walking the Way: A Swordsage's Handbook [Under Construction again]
Prestige class:
Revenant Blade (five levels, Player's Guide to Eberron)
You need: three feats, 5 BAB, few points in class skills, Valenar elf.
You gain: full BAB, decent skills, 3-4 floating feats you don't need to qualify for from a short list, class level as competence () bonus to hide/move silently, ability to treat each end of Valenar Double Scimitar as two-handed weapon.
Cons: aside from slowing IL/maneuver progress, Valenar Double Scimitar isn't a school weapon for any school by RAW.
Best used by: TWF/critfisher. Double weapon is a good option even before capstone, since you can use it for TWF with boosts and full attacks or as a two-hander for strikes.Last edited by Greenish; 2011-08-09 at 01:06 PM.
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2011-08-09, 11:07 AM (ISO 8601)
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2011-08-09, 12:56 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Walking the Way: A Swordsage's Handbook [Under Construction again]
Yeah ... for skills, Competence is the "bad" bonus. Enhancement bonuses to skills are very rare, and therefore awesome.
You can call me Draz.
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2011-08-09, 01:06 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Walking the Way: A Swordsage's Handbook [Under Construction again]
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2011-08-09, 01:51 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Walking the Way: A Swordsage's Handbook [Under Construction again]
You can call me Draz.
Trophies:
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Also of note:
- Winning Entry of Gestalt Build Challenge IV
- 3rd Place in Iron Chef XI (Blade Bravo)
- Judge of Iron Chef XXIII (Divine Champion)
I have a number of ongoing projects that I manically jump between to spend my free time ... so don't be surprised when I post a lot about something for a few days, then burn out and abandon it.
... yes, I need to be tested for ADHD.
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2011-08-09, 03:24 PM (ISO 8601)
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2011-08-09, 06:24 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Walking the Way: A Swordsage's Handbook [Under Construction again]
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2011-09-02, 08:50 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Walking the Way: A Swordsage's Handbook [Under Construction again]
How soon will Stances be up?
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2011-10-23, 06:43 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Walking the Way: A Swordsage's Handbook [Under Construction again]
So can you combine Raging Mongoose with Diamond Nightmare Blade and get 6 attacks with it at x4 damage for each attack that hits, for a TWF?
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2011-10-23, 07:01 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Walking the Way: A Swordsage's Handbook [Under Construction again]
No. The rumor that Dancing and Raging Mongoose can be used without a full attack (which I helped prolong ) is negated by the following line from the SRD:
Originally Posted by SRDYou can call me Draz.
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- Winning Entry of Gestalt Build Challenge IV
- 3rd Place in Iron Chef XI (Blade Bravo)
- Judge of Iron Chef XXIII (Divine Champion)
I have a number of ongoing projects that I manically jump between to spend my free time ... so don't be surprised when I post a lot about something for a few days, then burn out and abandon it.
... yes, I need to be tested for ADHD.
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2011-10-23, 08:58 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Walking the Way: A Swordsage's Handbook [Under Construction again]
Darn. Oh well. It can still be combined with another boost once you get dual boost, like inferno blade right?
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2011-10-23, 09:31 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Walking the Way: A Swordsage's Handbook [Under Construction again]
Yup, that's the point of Dual Boost.
You can even use both those boosts, then spend your full-round action on Time Stands Still.You can call me Draz.
Trophies:
Spoiler
Also of note:
- Winning Entry of Gestalt Build Challenge IV
- 3rd Place in Iron Chef XI (Blade Bravo)
- Judge of Iron Chef XXIII (Divine Champion)
I have a number of ongoing projects that I manically jump between to spend my free time ... so don't be surprised when I post a lot about something for a few days, then burn out and abandon it.
... yes, I need to be tested for ADHD.
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2011-10-23, 09:43 PM (ISO 8601)
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