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2010-03-20, 10:40 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Our Comic Lab in the Playground: An experimentation class
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2010-03-20, 11:51 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Our Comic Lab in the Playground: An experimentation class
Well, I just got told. That's what A computer nerd gets for trying to be a physicist.
Anyway, should my crab people have claws or not?
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2010-03-20, 11:56 AM (ISO 8601)
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2010-03-20, 11:58 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Our Comic Lab in the Playground: An experimentation class
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2010-03-20, 12:26 PM (ISO 8601)
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2010-03-20, 12:33 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Our Comic Lab in the Playground: An experimentation class
So as of now the factions consist of:
- The Ablinai
- The Argotanians United
- The Caz
- The Columbian Confederation
- Elfishness (not really a faction though)
- The enslaved aliens
- The Krashningrions
- Shadowlings? (may need revising due to fantastical nature)
- The Voltor
- The Zodohaani
Have I got everyone?
I've also created some new concepts for the Columbian Confederation's colonies. I hope it's not too early, but these crafts are their main trait.
The Twelve Colonies of the Columbian Confederation
While they have constructed several other space habitats, the twelve original colonies still remain the most important ones in the entire confederation, although they have been heavily refitted over the centuries with more advanced technology stolen from alien races or developed by Columbian scientists.
Each station is composed of a gargantuan torus capable of housing millions of people, rotating around a central cylindre to create artificial gravity. In addition to the human population, the ring contains a fully established ecosystem, allowing easy transplantation in case of terraforming and giving the illusion of living in a natural environment.
The colonies' voracious consumption of energy is provided by several massive nuclear fusion reactors in the centre of each station. The stations are still using nuclear pulse propulsion (in layman's term, moving the craft with nuclear explosions), although the technology has been refined to use more fusion based reactions.
While at first the habitats were intended to be only used for exploration (extraterrestrial intelligences were still unknown at the time), encounters with hostile alien species caused the Columbian Confederacy to add numerous weapons to their vehicles. Each colony is able to launch by itself barrages of nuclear and kinetic missiles, but their real military capabilities lie in their abilities to carry small battlecraft called destroyers.
Destroyers are, in essence, moving nuke boxes. They are catapulted from railguns to provide an initial speed boost and enormous laser beams from the colonies superheat a propellant for additional acceleration, with ion drives to provide secondary thrust. More than 80% of the vehicle mass is composed of thermonuclear missiles, with a tiny crew compartment firmly lodged deep into the middle of the craft. This is only a command crew, the rest of the destroyer being automated and having no life support.
EDIT: There are other spacecrafts, but I'm not going to detail them yet. Plus, if we decide to include such faster-than-light travel, the colonies will also have FTL drives.Last edited by Mad Mask; 2010-03-20 at 02:39 PM.
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2010-03-20, 12:57 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Our Comic Lab in the Playground: An experimentation class
Atrobiologists do have a go explanation. I'm just not sure which. I think it's something about that none of the early stages of evolution would survive such gravity, for creatures with full exoskeleton.
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That is one idea I really like.
I think we should keep 2 claws and 2 hands. I think we can come up with some "claw oriented" technology.
I think so : )
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2010-03-20, 01:03 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Our Comic Lab in the Playground: An experimentation class
You're gonna be straying pretty far from the basic crab shape then, which wasn't implied in your initial post.
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You'll need some severe bracing on the rings. And really good sound insulation along the supports, or no-one will be able to get a wink of sleep during course changes.
You're propelling them with light pressure? I can't really see that working for a battleship.
Any reason you have a crew at all? Also, beware of people blowing you up before you get a chance to fire your missiles.
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2010-03-20, 01:31 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Our Comic Lab in the Playground: An experimentation class
Of course.
The laser is used to heat a propellant. I should have made that clear in my post.
To make strategic decisions. Since no-one wants to read about the life and times of military computers, Columbian AI is just not advanced enough to replace human thinking.
That would be unlikely. Except in Q-ship scenarios, even lasers won't hit instantly because of the large space between the two sides; therefore, the destroyer will have enough time to fire its nukes. They'll also have laser point defence to protect themselves.Last edited by Mad Mask; 2010-03-20 at 01:32 PM.
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2010-03-20, 01:47 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Our Comic Lab in the Playground: An experimentation class
Have you considered remote control? Or are you operating at that ranges were lightspeed delays are noticeable? (Yet close enough to be propelled with a laser mounted on the mothership. )
If the laser is moving at c, how could you have any time to fire your nukes? You couldn't detect it being fired until it hits you, unless you have FTL sensors of course.
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2010-03-20, 01:57 PM (ISO 8601)
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I've had an idea for the name of my slave race, it would be some kind of code, because the surrounding civilizations simply regard them as primitive beings and have simply cataloged them in explorations.
I think a way to help this would be if there native languages all consisted of clucks, or something along those lines, because of this (the language not being like conventional ones) the other civilizations thought they went intelligent.IA AwardsSpoiler
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2010-03-20, 02:22 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Our Comic Lab in the Playground: An experimentation class
It's just for the initial speed boost. When they're out of range, they'll use another propulsion system (I think I'll remove the ion drive; too inefficient).
Who uses lasers offensively any way? You'll need tons of energy to cut through your opponents armour plating (which could very well be mirrored) and it becomes inefficient at long range (due to dispersion, I think [I don't remember the exact term]). You're better off with missile, nuclear or kinetic, who will destroy your enemies' craft in one hit if they get past their point defences, and are much more efficient at the long ranges of space combat.Last edited by Mad Mask; 2010-03-20 at 02:46 PM.
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2010-03-20, 02:34 PM (ISO 8601)
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2010-03-20, 02:42 PM (ISO 8601)
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2010-03-20, 02:47 PM (ISO 8601)
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2010-03-20, 02:53 PM (ISO 8601)
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2010-03-20, 03:17 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Our Comic Lab in the Playground: An experimentation class
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2010-03-20, 03:44 PM (ISO 8601)
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2010-03-20, 03:52 PM (ISO 8601)
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What kind of an enviroment would a creature have to grow up in in order to evolve the nigh-inpenetrible shell? The way I see it such a planet would be so deadly the attackers would be dead way before they were even able to see the shelled aliens' general location.
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2010-03-20, 04:12 PM (ISO 8601)
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2010-03-20, 04:24 PM (ISO 8601)
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2010-03-20, 04:59 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Our Comic Lab in the Playground: An experimentation class
If I remember my biology, a crab's shell is a silicate, which is what makes up most of the sand in the oceans. On the planet that I forgot to name, the sand is more of a carbonate, so much so that you can call the Kashningrion's shell a derivative of diamond.
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2010-03-20, 06:23 PM (ISO 8601)
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Glad to oblige.
Shells are composed of many things, but chitin and calcium carbonate are major components. Neither of those are silicates. (Heck, one is a carbonate.) I am not a biologist.
Additionally, there is a world of difference between diamond and a carbonate. Compare diamond with graphite and even coal. All three are composed of carbon, but they are very different. It depends on how the carbon bonds together, in graphite it forms layers of hexagons, in carbon it forms a cubic lattice, and it coal it forms a huge mess with numerous other elements attached wherever. Diamond is strong because of the lattice shape it forms, not because it contains carbon. And as a carbonate is already stuck with 3 oxygen atoms (it's CO32-), it can't form the lattice. I am not a chemist.
Also note that while diamond is hard, it is not particularly tough, so can be shattered. Not so useful for armour.
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2010-03-20, 06:52 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Our Comic Lab in the Playground: An experimentation class
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I like the idea of their language
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You, accidentally, made me think about gravity generation. We need to decide later if we are going to end up with gravity generators or if we are going to use what we currently know scientifically about artificial gravity.
But that is for later guys, lets not focus too much on the technology yet since MUCH can change. We don't even know what factions are making this first cut. No harm in discuss it but lets not get too far or it will end up just a huge ball of mixed ideas.
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2010-03-20, 07:06 PM (ISO 8601)
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2010-03-20, 07:50 PM (ISO 8601)
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I was going to make a race for this space thing, but it sounds like I have a LOT to catch up on.
Currently my idea is for a race who lost their planet, so they roam the galaxy. They're expert engineers, but they don't have the facilities needed to build stuff, so they salvage parts from other races, and then sell it. Essentially, an entire race of greasy used car salesmen.
"This Cruiser was last owned by a little old lady, she only used it once a week to strafe the shops"
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2010-03-20, 08:08 PM (ISO 8601)
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Go ahead and make it regardless. Nothing is set in stone about the universe yet, so you don't need to worry about conflicting with pre-existing material.
And even if your race is very similar to an existing one, it's won't matter as it's very unlikely that both will make it though the voting process.
But straight off the bat, how do you lose a planet. They're kinda big, you know, it's not like they can slip down the back of the sofa.
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2010-03-20, 08:21 PM (ISO 8601)
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By "Lose" I mean "Rendered their planet uninhabitable", they still know where it is, it's just a blasted toxic hellscape that can support no life and is roamed by the Nanobots they built in order to fight a minor plague. The Disease mad them throw up, feel ill, and die in maybe 5% of cases. The cure (Nanobots) had trouble telling the difference between the bacteria, any other bacteria, or really any other organic matter.
Then somebody decided to try Nuking the areas infested by the Nanobots. That didn't help either.
Edit: I might reshape them from Used Car Salesmen to more Mercenary scientists. They're Brilliant, but with the loss of their homeworld they are shattered, and they are often very distrustful of their own technology. Their old specialty was Nanotech, but those that survived have a hatred for it. They seek to purge all of their own Nanotechnology that's still around in the galaxy. However, for the last couple hundred years they had been boosting themselves with Nanotech, so those that are left who purged themselves, are very weak.
Of course, there are still "Tech Heads", those that use the old Nanobots, often they've boosted themselves past safe levels, making them very dangerous and in some cases half mad.
Edit 2: Ooh, a storyline could be centered around some people getting onto the planet and collecting some of the Nanobots, threatening to release them as a "Nanobomb"Last edited by BRC; 2010-03-20 at 08:53 PM.
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2010-03-20, 09:53 PM (ISO 8601)
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2010-03-20, 09:57 PM (ISO 8601)
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