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    Default Re: The Index of the Giant's Comments

    Quote Originally Posted by ChristianSt View Post
    And I didn't implied that you wanted two threads to discuss, I only said that restarting early might even be against the "one topic, one thread"-rule, because there would be two threads without really having a reason for it.
    I've done that before; as long as the OP posts to say the new thread is up and please do not use this one any more, and also notifies a mod that the first thread is ready to be locked, then it should be fine.

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    Default Re: The Index of the Giant's Comments

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    Alright, the results: 1, 3, 4, 8, 10 were voted into the index. They will be added in the next update.

    If everyone agrees with ChristianSt / Jasdoif on their suggested comment replacing 10, please make more motions to that effect.
    Quote Originally Posted by ThePhantasm View Post
    Things seem pretty evenly split on this issue, so in that case including both (or multiple) quotes in one entry will probably be the way to go.
    I've taken the liberty of updating my copy of the tables with the new quotes.

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    NEWEST ENTRIES

    10/04/2013|#922|[div]Babies shouldn't be statted[/div]The inclusion of combat stats for newborns encourages combat with newborns, which shouldn't happen. See also Rich's proposed alternative "stats", here and here.
    09/29/2013|#921|[div]Usefulness of the alignment system in D&D games[/div]A great aid for teaching new inexperienced players how to roleplay.
    09/18/2013|#919|[div]Armies and High level characters in D&D[/div]"The idea that you can walk into any tavern and 2-5 adventurers of high level will be there is literally a joke."
    09/14/2013|#918|[div]How to financially support the Giant[/div]Rich does not accept direct donations. Buying merchandise is preferred.
    09/12/2013|#918|[div]Disintegrate is useful[/div][/table]

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    Notices

    02/24/2012|#870|[div]For Those Who Missed Out on Kickstarter[/div]The swag, sans patches, will be very likely available again at some point.[/table]

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    Miscellaneous Comments

    09/14/2013|#918|[div]How to financially support the Giant[/div]Rich does not accept direct donations. Buying merchandise is preferred.
    07/06/2013|#897|[div]An OOTS "Munchkin" Board Game?[/div]No current plans for one.
    06/10/2013|#892|[div]An OOTS Computer Game?[/div]No current plans for one. See here for more.
    04/11/2011|#786|[div]eBooks[/div]Yes, Rich has considered it. Digital PDF's are not in the works. Rich prefers to sell physical copy books.
    05/19/2010|#724|[div]Top Webcomics[/div]Do not vote for OOTS on Top Webcomics.[/table]



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    07/23/2013|#903|[div]Alignment and Authorial Intent[/div]What does Rich mean when he says X character is Y alignment?
    07/22/2013|#903|[div]Who Else is Neutral[/div] A long list of Neutral characters in the comic. See also here.
    06/06/2013|#891|[div]Shojo's Chaotic Government[/div]Shojo's Chaotic government was still good, not evil.
    06/03/2013|#891|[div]More on Being Lawful[/div]More on being Lawful Good in D&D and the OOTS.
    02/18/2012|#838|[div]D&D's Alignment System[/div]Thoughts on how it could be improved.
    02/14/2012|#835|[div]D&D, Alignment, and Morality[/div]Rich on the comic's criticism of the way D&D has been played for over three decades. "D&D cannot and should not begin and end at black-and-white, and indeed already doesn't, if everyone would just learn to look at things a little more complexly." See also here (D&D "racism" and alignment) and here (the real world applicability of Redcloak's story).
    01/23/2012|#830|[div]Redcloak is Evil[/div]
    11/18/2011|#815|[div]Elan and Nale's Parentage[/div]How did it affect their alignment? Giant can't fully answer because of events yet to be revealed. Elan spared Nale's life because of Elan's understanding of what it means to be good.
    10/25/2011|#812|[div]Alignment and Environment[/div]Enor and Gannji were not operating wholly outside the ethical framework of the Empire of Blood. This doesn't change the nature of their acts but does mean that the acts are not as indicative of their overall alignment as some might suppose.
    10/24/2011|#812|[div]Enor & Gannji are True Neutral[/div]
    08/17/2011|#801|[div]V is True Neutral[/div]
    07/27/2011|#798|[div]Durkon is Lawful Good[/div]
    12/07/2010|#763|[div]Tarquin is Lawful Evil[/div]
    02/15/2006|#281|[div]On Being Lawful Good[/div]Being Lawful Good in D&D and the OOTS.
    12/01/2005|#251|[div]Belkar is Chaotic Evil[/div]
    01/20/2005|#142|[div]Nale, Sabine, and Thog are all Evil[/div][/table]



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    06/28/2013|#896|[div]How the Giant Writes and Draws the Strips[/div]And an answer to the question - why are certain strips several pages long?
    06/07/2013|#891|[div]Art Should Challenge Preconceptions[/div]
    02/26/2013|#871|[div]Light and Art[/div]The art style doesn't show lighting and shading, much like how it doesn't show noses.
    02/18/2013|#870|[div]Speech Bubbles[/div]Don't overthink them... they are subservient to the story. Malack's bubbles are only black when he "vamps out."
    04/11/2012|#848|[div]Examples of Rich's Non-Stick-Figure Art Talent[/div]Rich's mad art skills on showcase. Also more here.
    03/07/2012|#843|[div]True Subjective View In 843[/div]V gets cornered.
    11/20/2010|#759|[div]Why the Strip Titles Aren't Above the Strip[/div]The titles are "bonus" jokes. Rich prefers not to put them above the strip itself.
    10/06/2009|#683|[div]Character Appearances & Forum Speculation[/div]Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar. For example, just because two persons have similar hairstyles doesn't mean they are related.[/table]

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    Art & Magic

    07/26/2012|#859|[div]Meld Into Stone[/div]Art trumps rules accuracy here in order to show the warping of the spell effect.
    01/23/2012|#830|[div]Counterspelling[/div]The Giant doesn't use different art to differentiate between counterspelling with Dispel Magic and counterspelling with the same spell.
    06/28/2010|#731|[div]Spell Colors[/div]The colors come from the spellcaster's choice or personality, and not their alignment or the types of magic.
    03/15/2010|#706|[div]Invisibility[/div]Why the art for invisible characters isn't consistent (utility trumps consistency).[/table]

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    Art & Merchandise

    11/22/2011|#816|[div]Characters and Merchandise[/div]The presence, absence, position, or style of any character on any piece of merchandise has no bearing on any future (or past) plot points.
    03/16/2011|#781|[div]Black and White Books[/div]They are unlikely to ever be colorized, and were not originally in color. Rich drew them in black and white.
    09/05/2010|#744|[div]The Oracle's Location on the OOTS Poster[/div]Don't read too much into it.[/table]



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    10/04/2013|#922|[div]Babies shouldn't be statted[/div]The inclusion of combat stats for newborns encourages combat with newborns, which shouldn't happen. See also Rich's proposed alternative "stats", here and here.
    09/29/2013|#921|[div]Usefulness of the alignment system in D&D games[/div]A great aid for teaching new inexperienced players how to roleplay.
    09/18/2013|#919|[div]Armies and High level characters in D&D[/div]"The idea that you can walk into any tavern and 2-5 adventurers of high level will be there is literally a joke."
    06/11/2013|#893|[div]Girard's Illusion Runes[/div]They are a ninth-level spell, not an epic spell.
    06/20/2012|#856|[div]Malack's Undead[/div]Malack reanimates the dead Draketooths into mummies.
    04/06/2011|#785|[div]Acid-Born Shark[/div]Rich created it, and made fun of himself in the comic.[/table]

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    Character Items

    03/03/2013|#878|[div]Why V Doesn't Have a Staff[/div]There is no narrative purpose for it, and it would just be one more item to keep track of in the art.
    09/12/2012|#863|[div]The Keoghtum's Ointment[/div]The Keoghtum's Ointment removes deafness because it is extra strength.
    03/09/2012|#844|[div]Durkon Throws Diamond Dust[/div]Durkon threw diamond dust into the air in 844.
    05/29/2011|#793|[div]Haley's Boots of Speed[/div]Yes, she did get them dyed to match her brown/tan garb.
    05/13/2010|#723|[div]Elan's Rapiers[/div]He has two. His original, and one from Julio Scoundrel.[/table]

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    Character Quirks

    07/30/2013|#906|[div]Malack is not Paranoid[/div]
    06/03/2013|#891|[div]V is a Vegetarian[/div][/table]

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    Character Stats

    07/30/2013|#906|[div]Malack's Grapple Skills[/div]Malack's grapple skills were a hunting aid, not for optimization/combat. A character's skills have to be looked at in the context of their whole life, not "what I would do in a game."
    04/09/2013|#883|[div]Vampire Durkon Can Cast Spells[/div]A cleric doesn't have to worship a deity to cast spells.
    07/23/2012|#858|[div]Tarquin Doesn't Have Trap Sense[/div]"I don't usually bother making fun of mechanics anymore, but if I do, I'm not that subtle about it."
    09/19/2011|#806|[div]Durkon's Mass Death Ward[/div]Rich did not even know Mass Death Ward existed when he wrote the strip. He pegged it at 7th level instead of 8th.
    08/14/2011|#800|[div]Tsukiko Breaks The Rules[/div]Tsukiko has too many schools. Rich doesn't make character decisions based on common player trends.
    04/10/2010|#714|[div]OOTS' Stats[/div]Rich hasn't written them down, and everything is up in the air until they need a specific ability.
    01/03/2006|#262|[div]A Piece of Straw[/div]Haley used a piece of straw to get out of the jail cell. Info on Haley's Dexterity, Level, etc.
    05/03/2004|#65|[div]Elan and Nale are Twins[/div]So Nale has the same Strength, Dexterity, and Constitution as Elan.[/table]

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    Combat Scenes and Explanations

    03/02/2013|#876|[div]Malack and Mass Death Ward[/div]Why did Malack bother checking if Durkon protected himself when he could simply dispel the spell and not care at all?
    02/28/2013|#873|[div]Battle Scenes and D&D Tactics[/div]"My job is to entertain, not to showcase perfect D&D tactics. If you can't be entertained by anything BUT perfect D&D tactics, that's on you."
    10/06/2011|#808|[div]Roy's Arena Fight With Thog[/div]Roy's strategy to taunt a dungeon-crashing Thog into breaking the pillars.
    09/07/2011|#800|[div]Zz'Ditri's Break Enchantment[/div]Rich didn't read the casting time while making the strip.
    11/30/2005|#251|[div]Miko's Fight[/div]How Miko defeated the OOTS off-panel and captured them.[/table]

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    Rules Accuracy

    01/10/2012|#826|[div]Rules Accuracy In The Comic, II[/div]Case in point: Rich avoids the D&D term "calling" for the sake of non-D&D OOTS readers, who probably would not understand its meaning.
    09/20/2011|#806|[div]Game Balance Doesn't Matter in This Story[/div]"I was communicating the way I expected the audience would perceive it, then I began the process of abolishing that perception."
    08/17/2011|#801|[div]Rules Accuracy In The Comic[/div]"If you are looking for moment-to-moment rules accuracy from this comic, you probably should stop reading."[/table]



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    09/12/2013|#918|[div]Disintegrate is useful[/div]
    06/21/2013|#890|[div]About Girard's Double Bluff[/div]About Girard's double bluff to protect the Gate.
    06/19/2013|#894|[div]Familicide II[/div]More on how Familicide works.
    06/11/2013|#893|[div]The Dream Runes[/div]Elan's victory as character development. Also, Nale was the only LG member affected by the runes.
    06/09/2013|#891|[div]Kubota and Hinjo[/div]Why Kubota still wanted to kill Hinjo after the other nobles had given up.
    06/06/2013|#891|[div]The Azurite Nobles and Hinjo[/div]The nobles thought they could save their own skins from Xykon with Hinjo out of the way.
    05/25/2013|#890|[div]What Belkar Saw[/div]What Belkar saw while affected by the dream runes.
    04/09/2013|#882|[div]V's Children[/div]The Giant made them adopted to leave open the possibility that V/Inkyrius are gay or lesbian.
    02/18/2013|#870|[div]Scrying in the Desert[/div]It was Zz'ditri who scryed on the Order after they found Girard's illusion.
    11/25/2012|#859|[div]Dragon Continuity[/div]The Dragon Magazine strips and Gygax magazine strips exist in a separate continuity from the OOTS strips.
    03/07/2012|#843|[div]Familicide[/div]How Familicide works.
    02/18/2012|#838|[div]Some Thoughts on Visuals and Story[/div]People get invested in the story, not the art, of a comic.
    09/01/2011|#804|[div]More Prequels?[/div]The total number of planned prequel stories is "pretty much fixed."
    06/23/2010|#737|[div]Not everything needs a backstory[/div]Not everything needs a backstory, or even has an interesting one worth telling.[/table]

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    Calendars and Dates

    07/02/2010|#732|[div]OOTS Age Range[/div]Intended to be early to mid 20s. Durkon is the "dwarf equivalent" of this age range, in his 50s.
    05/26/2010|#725|[div]Chronology & Timeline[/div]Anything that states a numbered, dated year references the Northern calendar. The Oracle uses the Southern calendar. Further details on timeframe of Belkar's death prophecy included. Some time references in the strip (like the deva's chart) should not be taken too literally.[/table]

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    Culture and Geography

    04/08/2013|#882|[div]Class Systems and Careers[/div]Also, FYI, Durkon isn't "white."
    02/21/2013|#870|[div]Nergal and Undeath[/div]Nergal is not against undeath. Malack just doesn't like using the undead as canon fodder.
    04/11/2012|#848|[div]Religions and Deities in OOTS World[/div]Background details on who worships whom, and on Thor, Hel, and the Twelve Gods.
    09/12/2010|#746|[div]Map of the Western Continent[/div]It is constantly changing.[/table]

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    Reading Too Much Into It

    03/01/2013|#875|[div]Malack's Chamber Plans[/div]This was intended to use the imagery of factory farming, not the Holocaust. Malack plans to create a vampire ruling class.
    03/01/2013|#875|[div]Malack's Vampirism and LGBT[/div]Malack's condition is not an allegory for LGBT.
    11/21/2011|#811|[div]Orrin Draketooth's Daughter[/div]She's not Haley.
    04/11/2011|#786|[div]Belkar's Jokes[/div]Belkar making a joke about something does not make it so.
    07/02/2010|#732|[div]Current Politics[/div]There are no references to current politics in the strip beyond those which readers invent themselves.
    03/04/2010|#705|[div]TV Tropes[/div]Rich is aware it exists. No, he doesn't use it for ideas or reference it in any way in the comic.
    10/26/2009|#687|[div]Pratchett[/div]Rich hasn't read Pratchett.
    06/02/2009|#667|[div]Hidden Meanings[/div]Not everything in the comic has one.[/table]

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    Soon's Gate Backstory and Explanation

    09/01/2011|#804|[div]Soon's Castle[/div]Soon built the castle, but did not build Azure City.
    08/21/2011|#801|[div]Soon's Gem and Gate[/div]Details about Soon's rift and how it is protected. The gate/rift could not be moved. You can shift a gate to another plane, but not another place on this plane.[/table]

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    Storytelling Mistakes?

    04/07/2013|#882|[div]On Character Importance and Leadership Skills[/div]The Giant doesn't feel a character suffers for not having "leadership skills," and won't force someone's development just to give them said skills.
    03/02/2013|#876|[div]On Plots and Boredom[/div]"If one does not care about the protagonists or antagonists and is not emotionally invested in their struggles, and all one cares about is the resolution of the MacGuffin chase, then you will almost certainly be bored with a lot of the material I'm producing."
    09/07/2012|#862|[div]True Resurrection[/div]True Resurrection as a narrative-wrecking device, and an answer to the age-old "why didn't x character do y?" question.
    08/18/2012|#860|[div]A Missed Opportunity in 602?[/div]Why Hilgya was not the Cleric of Loki working for the Thieves' Guild.
    03/20/2012|#845|[div]The Gods Created Creatures After The World Was Created[/div]Is this a contradiction? No. There is no Gaia hypothesis in OOTS world.
    01/10/2012|#826|[div]No Purpose?[/div]"As a general rule of thumb, no one should say the sentence, 'There's no (or no other) possible narrative purpose for Rich to have done X!' until the story is completed. Because there's always a narrative purpose, you just haven't thought of what it is."
    09/19/2011|#806|[div]Surprises Are Not Deus Ex Machinas[/div]
    05/02/2009|#650|[div]Racism and Sex in OOTS[/div]Rich answers two separate concerns: One, whether there is some correlation between skin color and promiscuity, and two, whether there is too much promiscuity among the women portrayed in the comic. The short answer to both is no.
    09/30/2008|#597|[div]Typo in 597?[/div]Nope. It is a joke.[/table]

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    Plot Holes

    07/29/2013|#906|[div]Why Didn't Malack Prepare Word of Recall?[/div]Further explanation here and here (with a few remarks on plot holes in general).
    06/19/2013|#894|[div]Did Durkon Lie?[/div]No, the Giant forgot that Durkon said he didn't prepare "Detect Magic."
    06/11/2013|#893|[div]Why Didn't Girard Prepare a Better Trap Against Undead?[/div]"There is a big jump from knowing that illusions don't affect undead to being able to do anything about it--or expecting every defense to affect every possible creature type."
    01/26/2013|#866|[div]Why Destroy Tsukiko's Remains if Redcloak was just going to tell Xykon he killed her?[/div]One reason is so that Xykon would be unable to Speak With Dead on Tsukiko... or Raise Dead.
    11/30/2011|#816|[div]Giant's Response II[/div]A character thinking one thing instead of another thing is not a mistake, it just is. The rift grew according to Redcloak's predictions, but he was measuring the actual hole, not the cracks.
    11/29/2011|#816|[div]Giant's Response I[/div]Including - why Haley was surprised that Miko was killed, info on Nale's self-delusion and ego, how the rift got so close to Xykon's Tower (it grew), and what is and isn't a plot hole.[/table]

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    Writing Process and Story Development

    07/28/2013|#906|[div]Durkon Becomes a Vampire[/div]Originally, Durkon was going to become a vampire in the dungeon of Dorukan. This plot element has been developing for some time and even predates Xykon himself.
    07/28/2013|#906|[div]Characters as Plot Devices[/div]Both Redcloak and Malack had humble beginnings that developed into something more.
    07/28/2013|#906|[div]The Girard's Gate Plotline[/div]Tarquin and the LG are the main adversaries of this book; Team Evil was never going to battle the OOTS at Girard's Gate.
    07/25/2013|#904|[div]Nale's Wand[/div]Its function in the story. Also, a brief side-note about why Xykon showed up at Girard's gate a few seconds too late.
    04/09/2013|#883|[div]On Writing Female Characters[/div]The difficulties and fan reactions.
    04/08/2013|#882|[div]LGBT Characters[/div]Why there aren't more in the comic. Also see this.
    05/29/2011|#793|[div]V's Gender History[/div]Why Rich made V's gender ambiguous and what discussions about it were like in the early days. Roy's 'V-man' comment is not necessarily indicative of V's true gender.
    06/20/2005|#196|[div]Dungeon of Dorukan History[/div]Originally, Dorukan was not even necessarily a person.
    07/12/2004|#86|[div]The Dwarven god Thor[/div]OOTS Thor is not based off of D&D Thor. Until referenced in the comic, the Nordic legends/mythology does not exist in OOTSverse.[/table]

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    Character Development/Backstory

    04/07/2013|#882|[div]Haley's Leadership[/div]A greedy self-centered rogue becomes leader. Belkar and Haley are the only one's who questioned her leadership skills during the Azure City Resistance.
    02/26/2013|#872|[div]Durkon and Malack's Breakup[/div]Durkon reacts not only to Malack's vampirism, but to his alliance with the Linear Guild. He knows that Malack does not know Belkar isn't innocent.
    12/18/2012|#863|[div]Miko's Popularity[/div]Miko's story was not "cut short" because of fan opinions - it was precisely the length intended. Rich does not make storytelling decisions based on finances.
    11/18/2011|#815|[div]Parental Problems[/div]Background info on the parents of various characters like Elan and Haley, including character/plot development history.
    11/18/2011|#815|[div]Miko and Shojo[/div]Shojo was the "tape" that held Miko's character together for so long. He was responsible for much in Miko that was good/positive.
    08/21/2011|#801|[div]V's Splices[/div]There won't be a prequel book about them, and Rich hasn't developed a backstory for them. Just 3 evil souls.
    08/18/2011|#801|[div]Worldbuilding vs. Foreshadowing[/div]"Say hello to your boss for me."[/table]

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    Character Names

    03/10/2013|#879|[div]Azurite Names[/div]Why O-Chul isn't Oh Chul.
    10/11/2010|#749|[div]Tarquin's Name[/div]Named after a Roman King, not the Grand Moff.
    10/10/2010|#749|[div]Malack's Name[/div]Not based off of Darth Malak. Originally was going to be named Malachi.[/table]

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    The Story as a D&D Spoof

    01/29/2012|#831|[div]D&D Spoof Part II[/div]More on the comic's shift in focus from D&D gag-a-day jokes to a story that might appeal to a broader fanbase.
    01/22/2012|#829|[div]D&D Spoof[/div]The Giant on the comic's shift in focus from D&D gag-a-day jokes to a story that might appeal to a broader fanbase.[/table]



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    01/04/2013|#864|[div]The Rise of the Dark One[/div]The other gods lost their one shot to gang up on him and kill him. The Dark One has since been building his power.
    09/07/2012|#862|[div]How Xykon Broke Out[/div]How Xykon broke out (with some insight into The Giant's writing process). On Xykon and Redcloak's escape from Lirian, see also this post.
    02/14/2012|#835|[div]Redcloak's Little Sister[/div]She was not irredeemably evil, and certainly did not deserve execution.
    01/12/2012|#826|[div]The Crimson Mantle[/div]Generally it is not known by non-goblins that the mantle is the source of power.
    08/03/2011|#799|[div]Dragon Magazine Alternate Panel[/div]What didn't show up in Snips, Snails, and Dragon Tails.
    03/15/2010|#706|[div]SoD Paladins & Miko's Fall[/div]Only the crayon pages are narrative by Redcloak. Not every event is necessarily "seen." Certain scenes are largely shown from Redcloak's perspective. Details of why the paladins who killed Redcloak's people may or may not have fallen, why it doesn't matter, and how showing it would have cheapened the effect of Miko's fall later.
    06/15/2008|#566|[div]Right-Eye's Family[/div]They weren't raised because Redcloak doesn't control Team Evil's finances to pay for resurrection, Xykon does. Evil characters are not discouraged / prohibited from raising the dead in OOTSverse.[/table]

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    Kickstarter Bonus PDFs

    02/25/2013|#871|[div]Cornered For Donations[/div]"Nervous" and "Afraid" look pretty much the same, which helped with the misdirection at the start of Belkar's story.
    02/23/2012|#870|[div]Fire Threat[/div]Belkar did not actually burn the town down on his first adventure.[/table]



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    Roy

    10/06/2011|#808|[div]Roy's Arena Fight With Thog[/div]Roy's strategy to taunt a dungeon-crashing Thog into breaking the pillars.[/table]

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    Haley

    04/07/2013|#882|[div]Haley's Leadership[/div]A greedy self-centered rogue becomes leader. Belkar and Haley are the only one's who questioned her leadership skills during the Azure City Resistance.
    05/29/2011|#793|[div]Haley's Boots of Speed[/div]Yes, she did get them dyed to match her brown/tan garb.
    01/03/2006|#262|[div]A Piece of Straw[/div]Haley used a piece of straw to get out of the jail cell. Info on Haley's Dexterity, Level, etc.[/table]

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    Durkon

    07/28/2013|#906|[div]Durkon Becomes a Vampire[/div]Originally, Durkon was going to become a vampire in the dungeon of Dorukan. This plot element has been developing for some time and even predates Xykon himself.
    06/19/2013|#894|[div]Did Durkon Lie?[/div]No, the Giant forgot that Durkon said he didn't prepare "Detect Magic."
    04/09/2013|#883|[div]Vampire Durkon Can Cast Spells[/div]A cleric doesn't have to worship a deity to cast spells.
    04/08/2013|#882|[div]Class Systems and Careers[/div]Also, FYI, Durkon isn't "white."
    02/26/2013|#872|[div]Durkon and Malack's Breakup[/div]Durkon reacts not only to Malack's vampirism, but to his alliance with the Linear Guild. He knows that Malack does not know Belkar isn't innocent.
    07/27/2011|#798|[div]Durkon is Lawful Good[/div]
    07/02/2010|#732|[div]OOTS Age Range[/div]Intended to be early to mid 20s. Durkon is the "dwarf equivalent" of this age range, in his 50s.[/table]

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    06/11/2013|#893|[div]The Dream Runes[/div]Elan's victory as character development. Also, Nale was the only LG member affected by the runes.
    11/18/2011|#815|[div]Elan and Nale's Parentage[/div]How did it affect their alignment? Giant can't fully answer because of events yet to be revealed. Elan spared Nale's life because of Elan's understanding of what it means to be good.
    05/13/2010|#723|[div]Elan's Rapiers[/div]He has two. His original, and one from Julio Scoundrel.[/table]

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    06/19/2013|#894|[div]Familicide II[/div]More on how Familicide works.
    06/03/2013|#891|[div]V is a Vegetarian[/div]
    04/09/2013|#882|[div]V's Children[/div]The Giant made them adopted to leave open the possibility that V/Inkyrius are gay or lesbian.
    03/03/2013|#878|[div]Why V Doesn't Have a Staff[/div]There is no narrative purpose for it, and it would just be one more item to keep track of in the art.
    03/07/2012|#843|[div]Familicide[/div]How Familicide works.
    08/17/2011|#801|[div]V is True Neutral[/div]
    05/29/2011|#793|[div]V's Gender History[/div]Why Rich made V's gender ambiguous and what discussions about it were like in the early days. Roy's 'V-man' comment is not necessarily indicative of V's true gender.[/table]

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    Belkar

    05/25/2013|#890|[div]What Belkar Saw[/div]What Belkar saw while affected by the dream runes.
    04/11/2011|#786|[div]Belkar's Jokes[/div]Belkar making a joke about something does not make it so.
    12/01/2005|#251|[div]Belkar is Chaotic Evil[/div][/table]

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    01/23/2012|#830|[div]Redcloak is Evil[/div][/table]
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    Jasdoif, you are amazing.
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    Time to vote for certain quotes to be removed from the Index.

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    Remember we want to include quotes answering regularly recurring questions / issues arising in forum discussions. "Regular" doesn't necessarily mean "often."

    Please keep in mind the Giant's requests here and here.

    HOW TO VOTE

    Reference by number each post you want removed. Make sure your vote is in bold type. Votes that are not in bold are not guaranteed to be counted.

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    QUOTES NOMINATED FOR REMOVAL

    1. D&D's Alignment System: Thoughts on how it could be improved. (02/18/2012; #838)

    2. On Being Lawful Good in D&D and the OOTS. (02/15/2006; #281)

    3. Vampire Durkon Can Cast Spells: A cleric doesn't have to worship a deity to cast spells. (04/09/2013; #883)

    4. Some Thoughts on Visuals and Story: People get invested in the story, not the art, of a comic. (02/18/2012; #838)

    5. True Resurrection as a narrative-wrecking device, and an answer to the age-old "why didn't x character do y?" question. (9/07/2012; #862)

    6. Enor and Ganjii are True Neutral! (10/24/2011; #812)

    7. Pratchett: Rich hasn't read Pratchett. (10/26/2009; #687)

    8. Elan's Rapiers: He has 2. His original, and one from Julio Scoundrel. (05/13/2010; #723)

    9. Why V Doesn't Have a Staff: There is no narrative purpose for it, and it would just be one more item to keep track of in the art. (03/03/2013; #878)

    10. Malack is not Paranoid (07/30/2013; #906)

    11. Tarquin Doesn't Have Trap Sense: "I don't usually bother making fun of mechanics anymore, but if I do, I'm not that subtle about it." (07/23/2012, #858)
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    Remove 1, 2, 4, 7, 9, and 10.
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    2, 6, 7, 8, 9, 11
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    edit: On second thought, remove none
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    Remove 8, 10, and 11.
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    1, 3, 4, 7, 8

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    7 and 9.
    Sorry, but alignment stuff is one of the main reasons I like this thread.
    The others answered meaningful reoccurring questions about the comic, and should be included.

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    9. I can't see any reason to remove the others.
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    Remove 11. The rest seem useful to me.
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    I'm uncertain how negative votes are counted (I'm guessing hamishspence counts as casting a vote against removing anything but 9), but I'm going out in a limb and guessing that not posting means not getting counted at all, so: Remove none of the ones listed. They're all either things it's worth recording that he said for their own sake (1, 2) or questions that have come up already, usually more than once (3, 7, 9, 11).

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    I vote to remove 3 and 7.

    (Also I'm not sure, will there be another round of removal-nominees? I nominated 3 posts and don't see them here. Or should I have nominated with a PM or such? And yeah, some idea how this voting system works would also be nice *g* - or do you just hope it will be a clear result? )

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    I vote for all 11 to be removed.

    I'm not sure how any of them are really relevant or provide information that isn't obvious or interesting.
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    I say remove 7, and only 7.
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    None of them ever
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    And TP can reserve the first five or so posts on the next thread. Should help with character limit issues.
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    Remove 7, keep the rest.

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    3, 4, and 7.

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    Remove: 7, 8, 9, 11

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    1, 7

    Blah blah 10 character post blah blah.

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    None.

    None at all.

    Might have missed it, but is there any reason why we can't just have three initial posts?
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    7, 10, 11 .......

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    None of them. They all deserve to be in the index.

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    I'd keep them all, 1-11. If space/clutter was really a massive issue and some of these had to go...well, nine and seven I suppose.
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    Only 7. Rich's reading history seems to have nothing meaningful to say about any element of the strip.
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    I'd say only 3.


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    7 7 7................
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