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Thread: Got any Dice Questions?
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2008-01-07, 12:35 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Got any Dice Questions?
Common sense is not so common.
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2008-01-07, 02:06 PM (ISO 8601)
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2008-01-08, 03:45 AM (ISO 8601)
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A picture, I think, would help alot.
Yeah, that is actually a pretty good idea. Perhaps with outer dice that are openable so you could put whatever needed die inside? I don't know how that would work while maintaining a proper inner surface for the dmg dice to roll on. Still a good idea though.
Fair enough, I suppose. :P
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2008-01-08, 06:25 AM (ISO 8601)
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I only just stumbled upon this thread but your collection efforts are really awesome. Keep up the good work and thanks for maintaining your collection and this!
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2008-01-08, 06:43 AM (ISO 8601)
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Do you think you have enough dice, or are you like the rest of us who still 'Never have enough dice'?
And when you're gaming, do you have a few sets of duplicate dice to game with, or do you spend hours looking through the collection to find the dice you want to use?
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2008-01-08, 07:09 AM (ISO 8601)
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Lol, good enough answer I suppose. But how did you come by that idea to collect dices? I've got 30 D6s for my warhammer purposes, 2 sets of D&D dice, and so far I didn't have any sudden urges to start making a hoard out of them, so I'm just trying to understand your reason(s)...
Second of all, do you get paid for being the record holder? I mean, I guess some of those rare dices you posses are expensive, and having 20 000+ of them can amount to serious amount of money, so what makes you keep collecting them?Last edited by Gorbash; 2008-01-08 at 07:18 AM.
Common sense is not so common.
Nanfoodle the Maverick, Conjurer of expensive tricks
SpoilerOriginally Posted by I'm da Rogue!
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2008-01-08, 08:50 AM (ISO 8601)
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I have the green beatdown d20, PM me if interested
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2008-01-08, 09:43 AM (ISO 8601)
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I just want to say, Kevin, thanks for posting this and for the inspiration! I'm relatively new at dice collection, having a "mere" 196 dice to my name (It'll hit 200 in a couple weeks when my gaming club holds it's annual convention, we're having custom dice made this year with the club's logo).
I'll have to show my housemates your site the next time they tell me I have too many dice!Current D&D characters: None
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2008-01-09, 10:13 AM (ISO 8601)
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Thanks for the recognition ... I really like this forum as it is so active ... and somehow manages to come up with new dice questions for me ... even after 30+ years of collecting
I think enough is relative ... I have enough ... I WANT more :)
And when you're gaming, do you have a few sets of duplicate dice to game with, or do you spend hours looking through the collection to find the dice you want to use?
A fair question ... HERE is the answer
Second of all, do you get paid for being the record holder? I mean, I guess some of those rare dices you posses are expensive, and having 20 000+ of them can amount to serious amount of money, so what makes you keep collecting them?
As to why I keep collecting ... I suppose it is the desire to be the best at something ... or it could be OCD :)
Thanks ... is is nice to know that someone looks up to me (for those of you who havent met me at GenCon ... I am only 5 feet 2 inches (157cm for you metric types) tall :)
I'm relatively new at dice collection, having a "mere" 196 dice to my name (It'll hit 200 in a couple weeks when my gaming club holds it's annual convention, we're having custom dice made this year with the club's logo).
I'll have to show my housemates your site the next time they tell me I have too many dice!Last edited by Kevin_Cook; 2008-01-09 at 10:15 AM.
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2008-01-14, 02:25 AM (ISO 8601)
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Another question. I just went and replaced my poly's cuz i seem to have misplaced my old ones. I also picked up a D24 and D30, but i was sad to find that Gamescience doesn't produce any D30's...why not? I don't suppose you know?
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2008-01-14, 02:55 AM (ISO 8601)
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I don't know whether this has been asked (only read 2 pages of thread, it's late...)
There are companies that make unique dice, I believe. You send in what you want and they make it (it may only be for differently marked sides on common shapes, but nonetheless) how would this count towards the Guinness records? Only one of each shape? Not at all?
If a die from something like this became part of a widely packaged and sold game, would it count? ((Specifically, an eight-sided die with a, b, c, d, e, f, g, h on it.))Last edited by Icewalker; 2008-01-14 at 02:55 AM.
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2008-01-14, 03:52 AM (ISO 8601)
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I suppose this is a good place as any..
I would like a little math craft. A fellow player was trying to discover a method of using a d6 and a d10 to replicate a d30 roll.. as I don't have my d30+- just yet.
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2008-01-14, 05:00 AM (ISO 8601)
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Plastic is obviously the most common material to make dice from, but what, have you found, is the best? Which is the most balanced? The most durable? The most likely to retain it's balance after years of service? Is there any material you prefer personally? What is the most unusual material you've seen/own/heard about?
What is the most unusual geometric design for a die you've seen?
Is there any sided die that doesn't exist that you think would see use if it did?
Do you have a single, favorite die? Is there a die that is the bane of your existence?
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2008-01-14, 05:15 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Got any Dice Questions?
Glyphic - sorry, know I'm not the guy you asked, but 'tis not difficult.
0 on the d10 is considered to be 10 throughout.
Roll d6:
On 1-2: result is straight d10 (=1-10)
On 3-4: result is d10 + 10 (=11-20)
On 5-6: result is d10 + 20 (=21-30).
This gives an even distribution of any number from 1 to 30, just as a d30 does.
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2008-01-14, 07:20 AM (ISO 8601)
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I have a program, made by a friend, which calculates all the possible values rolling a bunch of dice can give you and the probability with which they'll come up.
I'll upload it in case that helps.
EDIT: http://download.yousendit.com/9C55943A666E7E4B
Make sure to go to the command prompt first before running it, otherwise XP will close it the instant it finishes, preventing you from looking at the resultsLast edited by Patashu; 2008-01-14 at 07:34 AM.
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2008-01-14, 11:14 AM (ISO 8601)
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What has a better average, 1d3, or 1d4-1?
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2008-01-14, 11:26 AM (ISO 8601)
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SoD:
d3: mean (colloquial "average") 2.
d4: mean 2.5.
d4-1: mean 1.5
So one would expect the long-term result of a large number of d3 rolls to exceed the long-term result of a large number of (d4-1) rolls. This is not terribly surprising, as d4-1 can roll 0,1,2,3 with equal probabilities and d3 can roll 1,2,3 with equal probabilities.
(d5-1 would have the same mean as d3, but more variance.)
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2008-01-14, 12:13 PM (ISO 8601)
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That is a very good question ... I can only speculate as to the answer ... My guess is that back when d30's were first made ... only The Armory made them ... and based on Lou Zocchi's (owner of Gamescience) experiences ... he didnt want to infringe on Armorys area ... I am not sure why he didnt start making them after they went out of business ... other than he had a large backstock of them
There are MANY companies that make unique dice ... depending on your definition of unique :)
You send in what you want and they make it (it may only be for differently marked sides on common shapes, but nonetheless) how would this count towards the Guinness records? Only one of each shape? Not at all?
There are now several companies that now custom engrave dice
CLICK HERE and see Custom Dice Manufacturers for a full list
If a die from something like this became part of a widely packaged and sold game, would it count? ((Specifically, an eight-sided die with a, b, c, d, e, f, g, h on it.))
Easy
D6 1-2 = +0 ... 3-4 = +10 ... 5-6 = +20
combined with
d10 ... is 1-30
Sorry if this is already answered ... am answering these in the order in which they were submitted
Plastic
Which is the most balanced?
The most durable?
The most likely to retain it's balance after years of service?
Is there any material you prefer personally?
What is the most unusual material you've seen/own/heard about?
What is the most unusual geometric design for a die you've seen?
Is there any sided die that doesn't exist that you think would see use if it did?
For example ... I could design a 28 ... 29 and 31 sided dice for those wanting to roll the day of the month ... I just could not say how much use it would see
Do you have a single, favorite die?
HERE are some examples
Is there a die that is the bane of your existence?
Thanks for the linkLast edited by Kevin_Cook; 2008-01-14 at 12:15 PM.
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2008-01-14, 04:31 PM (ISO 8601)
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SoD:
d3: mean (colloquial "average") 2.
d4: mean 2.5.
d4-1: mean 1.5Time travels in divers paces with divers persons.
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2008-01-14, 09:29 PM (ISO 8601)
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But if there are companies that will produce personalized dice by request, and different ones count, can't you just get huge numbers of different dice from them?
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2008-01-15, 05:28 AM (ISO 8601)
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Kevin_Cook - Depleted uranium dice - words fail me. Wow.
Chronos - good point, mean 1.75 if d4-1 is a damage roll or something that is minimum 1. That explains why he asked the question, too. I'd been wondering that. Still worse than d3 though.
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2008-01-15, 05:32 AM (ISO 8601)
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For the last time, it stands for Shadow of Darkness!
Thankin' Nevitan fer me babytar!
Kasaad Shadowweb-Chitine Paladin of Freedom (now a clickable link!).
Genderbender week comin' up! SoDess by Bisected8 *applause*
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2008-01-15, 01:44 PM (ISO 8601)
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That looks to me like a typo for 1d4+1, then. For comparison, the Summon Monster spells all let you get 1 monster off of the same-level list, 1d3 from the next-lower list, or 1d4+1 from the list two levels lower. 1d4+1 is obviously better than 1d3, so in that case it becomes a question of whether you want more small things or fewer big things. Reading it exactly as written, it would make no sense at all to summon regular apes.
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2008-01-15, 04:31 PM (ISO 8601)
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Not sure what happened to the first post I made on these ... something seems to have deleted them
Correct ... but given that the minimum number of dice with one graphic ... is 10 ... I doubt any of the dice companies would be willing to engrave 1000's of images ... on just 10 dice each
Yea ... that one blew me away as well ... I would love ot have a set of those ... even found a lead box to put them in
They are as elusive as the Former worlds smallest dice I have sent them several emails trying to purchase one ... but have had no luck
The current smallest are just nuts ... I would have to purchase an electron microscope to show them off ... 200 microns
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2008-01-17, 09:55 AM (ISO 8601)
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Kevin_Cook - Good luck with the uranium dice, make sure you keep the lead box in a well-sealed airtight tub in your cellar. Dust and contact are more dangerous than the emitted radiation; distance is a good protection from both.
Looking at 1mm on my ruler, a 1/3mm dice like you linked to should be readable through a big magnifying glass. Bit pricey though.
Do you have any nontransitive dice sets? Any non-d6 nontransitives?
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2008-01-18, 06:30 AM (ISO 8601)
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Yes
Any non-d6 nontransitives?
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2008-01-18, 08:37 AM (ISO 8601)
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Ah, those weren't what I was thinking of when I said nontransitives (I was thinking of the set of 4 seen here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nontransitive_dice
) ...but they are very cool and I want some!
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2008-01-18, 09:25 AM (ISO 8601)
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Back when I was younger my father used to play D&D with my brother and I. He had a set of critical hit and critical fumble d6. Do youhave a set of these? If not, I would be willing to send them your way (as long as you don't mind paying shipping).
P.S. Assuming I can find them.Last edited by WorthingSon; 2008-01-18 at 09:25 AM.
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Any asymmetric dice with (theoretically) uniform distributions?
note: the link to Sicherman Dice is incorrect when it says,
"Any game that you can play with a normal set of two dice can also be played with a set of Sicherman Dice, with no difference in the outcome."
A counter-example would be Monopoly (a game played with a normal set of two dice). The odds of rolling doubles is normally 1 in 6... with Sicherman Dice it is 1 in 9. Rolling doubles has numerous effects in the game. Another counter-example would be Backgammon and a third would be craps (which gives different odds depending upon how you make your point).