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Thread: The Great Maple Syrup Heist
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2012-09-07, 05:37 PM (ISO 8601)
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A quick google search tells us that a gallon of maple syrup is worth about $100 US. A 50 gallon drum is about .5 m in diameter and .9 m high, so $500 of syrup would take up .18 cubic meters of space. So $30 million would take up about 10,000 cubic meters, or a cube about 10 meters on a side. Alternatively, it would take about 100 semi-trailers filled to the brim to carry all the syrup.
I hope I didn't make a mistake somewhere in my math.Whoops, I totally had an extra power of ten that I should not have been using.
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2012-09-07, 05:41 PM (ISO 8601)
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This article say more than ¼ of the reserve. Apparently the thieves were clever; they left behind the empty barrels. One expect thinks it was an inside job. After all, who else would have the contacts to sell it?
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2012-09-07, 05:46 PM (ISO 8601)
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That's probably the really high-quality syrup then, because I've seen gallons selling for around USD 50. I think USD 20 per liter is a decent middle-range price, because that USD 50 per gallon translates to about USD 14 per liter.
Yeah, probably. Makes sense. But who would think there'd be a maple syrup black market?Jude P.
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2012-09-07, 05:53 PM (ISO 8601)
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Last edited by shawnhcorey; 2012-09-07 at 05:54 PM.
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2012-09-09, 04:55 AM (ISO 8601)
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2012-09-09, 03:14 PM (ISO 8601)
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2012-09-09, 04:23 PM (ISO 8601)
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2012-09-09, 10:38 PM (ISO 8601)
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Not to mention I'd assume they don't dilute the stuff they use themselves.
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2012-09-10, 10:29 AM (ISO 8601)
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2012-09-10, 10:35 AM (ISO 8601)
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No, my dad read a book about it, I'll see if I can find out the title of it from him later for those who are interested. But yes, the olive oil is all diluted stuff nowadays. Even the mafia themselves use it -- they don't care as long as they're raking in the dough. It's basically impossible to get real olive oil.
"Whole history" is a bit exaggerated, though, since the dilution started in the 1920s, IIRC.Spoiler
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Through the years that have no name,
And the late notes soar to a higher range,
But the theme is still the same.
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2012-09-10, 01:53 PM (ISO 8601)
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2012-09-10, 02:57 PM (ISO 8601)
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Wikipedia has this to say
With Italian extra-virgin olive oil in high demand with concomitant high prices, adulterated olive oil has become the biggest source of agricultural fraud problems in the European Union.[6] While less than 10% of world olive oil production meets the criteria for labeling as extra-virgin, it has been estimated that up to 50% of retail oil is labeled "extra-virgin".[7] Some oil labeled "extra-virgin" is diluted with cheaper olive oils or other vegetable oils. In some cases, lampante, or "lamp oil," which is made from spoiled olives fallen from trees, is used, even though it can't legally be sold as food. One fraud ring is accused of coloring low-grade soy oil and canola oil with industrial chlorophyll, and flavoring it with beta-carotene.[6]
In the United States, the Food and Drug Administration (FDA) doesn't routinely test imported olive oil for adulteration, and some products are difficult to test.
An article by[Tom Mueller in the August 13, 2007 issue of The New Yorker states that major Italian shippers routinely adulterate olive oil and that only about 40% of olive oil sold as "extra virgin" actually meets the specification.[8] In some cases, colza oil with added color and flavor has been labeled and sold as olive oil.[9] This extensive fraud prompted the Italian government to mandate a new labeling law in 2007 for companies selling olive oil, under which every bottle of Italian olive oil would have to declare the farm and press on which it was produced, as well as display a precise breakdown of the oils used, for blended oils.[10] In February 2008, however, EU officials took issue with the new law, stating that under EU rules such labeling should be voluntary rather than compulsory.[11] Under EU rules, olive oil may be sold as Italian even if it only contains a small amount of Italian oil.[10]
The olive oil times seems to corroborate this
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Brian P.Last edited by pendell; 2012-09-10 at 02:59 PM.
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2012-09-10, 06:39 PM (ISO 8601)
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As for the olive oil bit. Having had the stuff where the Mafia isn't very active in this field (California, Morrocco) and having had it strait from the presses (and the end of the machine-they gave us samples) I can say that I even in 2010 had pure olive oil.
But yes most of the store bought stuff is strongly adulterated. . .
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2012-09-10, 08:01 PM (ISO 8601)
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I'm not sure about all olive oil being adulterated... But claiming it doesn't happen is much too hopeful.
Anyway... I just checked the olive oil in our cupboard, and its Spanish. And it says one hundred percent extra virgin olive oil, and it's an Australian owned company... So, I think it might be reasonably pure.
If it were made in Australia, once could reasonably assume it to be pure, but I don't think we grow that many olive trees.Mauve Shirt, Savannah, Gnomish Wanderer, Cuthalion and Smuchmuch get cookies for making me avatars. (::)
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2012-09-10, 10:32 PM (ISO 8601)
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2012-09-10, 10:41 PM (ISO 8601)
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There's organised crime, obviously, but it's not a big thing.
And if Australian started adulterating their olive oil to a level that was detectable, then a ton of media shaped bricks would descend on them.
I mean... Seriously, our media has nothing better to do than exposing fraud. Every other night, there's a section on something nutrition related. Just last week, they told us which fast food chains sold the healthiest chips. KFC for those who are interested.Mauve Shirt, Savannah, Gnomish Wanderer, Cuthalion and Smuchmuch get cookies for making me avatars. (::)
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2012-09-11, 04:37 PM (ISO 8601)
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The book is "Olives: The Life and Lore of a Noble Fruit" by Mort Rosenblum. Apparently, after talking to my dad about the book, it's a lot easier to get good olive oil outside the United States than in it, according to this book. You can get it here, too, but you have to work at it and probably pay quite a bit more.
Spoiler
So the song runs on, with shift and change,
Through the years that have no name,
And the late notes soar to a higher range,
But the theme is still the same.
Man's battle-cry and the guns' reply
Blend in with the old, old rhyme
That was traced in the score of the strata marks
While millenniums winked like campfire sparks
Down the winds of unguessed time. -- 4th Stanza, The Bad Lands, Badger Clark
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2012-09-11, 08:10 PM (ISO 8601)
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Of that I was already aware -- Canada takes a more strict view of what Extra Virgin &c. means than the USA. I was also aware that quality olive oil costs a lot more. Again, I don't dispute that there's a racket involved, only that it happens across the board as a certain cracked.com "article" purports.
Thanks for the book title, I really enjoy that kind of non-fiction.
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2012-09-13, 01:57 AM (ISO 8601)
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2012-09-13, 11:31 AM (ISO 8601)
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i'm surprised i kicked off such a massive discussion...
a bit on sumerian olive oil fraud can be found HERE
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2012-09-13, 12:01 PM (ISO 8601)
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Spoiler
So the song runs on, with shift and change,
Through the years that have no name,
And the late notes soar to a higher range,
But the theme is still the same.
Man's battle-cry and the guns' reply
Blend in with the old, old rhyme
That was traced in the score of the strata marks
While millenniums winked like campfire sparks
Down the winds of unguessed time. -- 4th Stanza, The Bad Lands, Badger Clark
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2012-09-17, 05:13 AM (ISO 8601)
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Now that a few weeks have gone by, has anyone seen or heard anthing more about this? Did they ever find out whodunnit? Did they ever get an exact figure for how much syrup was stolen? etc...
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2012-09-17, 09:22 AM (ISO 8601)
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You'd think they could just look for a really big tanker truck that smells really, really good.
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2012-09-17, 09:24 AM (ISO 8601)
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2012-09-17, 09:42 AM (ISO 8601)
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2012-09-17, 09:46 AM (ISO 8601)
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How do you keep a fool busy? Turn upside down for answer.
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2012-09-17, 09:52 AM (ISO 8601)
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2012-09-18, 12:30 PM (ISO 8601)
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2012-10-09, 07:52 AM (ISO 8601)
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Good news, everyone!
Police Seize More Than 600 Barrels of Maple Syrup
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2012-10-09, 08:05 AM (ISO 8601)
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I love how they are treating it like a plutonium shipment with all the talk about police escorts and such. I mean, we gotta make sure it makes it there safe, why, with that size of a shipment the bandits will be out in force to hijack it!
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