Warhammer 40k fluff thread VI: They see me Ward'en, they haten

[Zorg]

It's meant to be the same guy, but Veetock probably just made up a date without checking Vraks as I think he's never had a date placed on his ascencion to the post before the current codex as best as I can recall.

[Squark]

Also, going back about 20% of the way through human history (Which is about what the gap between 40k and the writing of the codex is) and going back to the dawn of human civilization is a big difference, even if the chronological gap is the same.

[Oracle_Hunter]

Page 49 -- that means one more page until we need a new thread.

And a new thread needs a new name.

My proposal: Warhammer 40K Fluff Thread VII: There's a Codex Entry For That

[The Glyphstone]

I'll put forward:

Warhammer 40K Fluff Thread VII: Roboute Guilliman, Gently Down The Stream...

or

Warhammer 40K fluff Thread VII: Rowboat, Girlyman, Gently Down The Stream...

[Acanous]

I'll put forward:

Warhammer 40K Fluff Thread VII: Roboute Guilliman, Gently Down The Stream...

or

Warhammer 40K fluff Thread VII: Rowboat, Girlyman, Gently Down The Stream...

Why do you post the same thread title twice? :p

[Artanis]

Warhammer 40K Fluff Thread VII: POSTS FOR THE POST GOD!

[The Glyphstone]

Why do you post the same thread title twice? :p

There might be some Ultrasmurfs fans here, so I gave a Smurf-friendly alternative.

[t209]

A question based on the new Dark Angels codex- have there been two or more Supreme Grand Masters to bear the name Azrael?

The new codex has the current Supreme Grand Master Azrael take the post in 939.M41.

The Siege of Vraks is dated in the 6e rulebook as beginning in 812.M41 and lasting well over a decade.

In the Siege of Vraks background books, a Supreme Grand Master Azrael led the Chapter to participate in the fight for Vraks, in 821.M41.

So what did the new Dark Angels codex ruined the old one? Like Sanguinary Guard and their (ugh!) armor in Blood Angels. And Twilight references for Blood Angels (though it made them look like Angels with Rage issue).

[hamishspence]

I wouldn't say "ruined" - this sort of thing can be resolved by saying there were two Azraels.

[Cheesegear]

Like Sanguinary Guard and their (ugh!) armor in Blood Angels. And Twilight references for Blood Angels

Sanguinary Guard just have Dante's armour - which he's had since he first existed.

Do you have examples of Twilight references? Because as far as I'm concerned BAs have been drinking blood for over 20 years.

I wouldn't say "ruined" - this sort of thing can be resolved by saying there were two Azraels.

Or, that like 'Cypher', 'Azrael' is a title, or that similar to Greco-Roman culture, people just take the names of older heroes.

[hamishspence]

We know not every DA Chapter Master's cognomen is Azrael- since the incumbent's predecessor's name is given as Naberius.

[t209]

I wouldn't say "ruined" - this sort of thing can be resolved by saying there were two Azraels.

Dread Spacemarine Azrael? I mean he could be a clone, sucession gap (maybe he stepped down temporarily), or it could be a spacemarine officer who took his name and place.

[Squark]

Or, you know, GW is not terribly good with dates. Ulrik the Slayer's fluff has conflicting times within the Codex itself (He supposedly recruited and trained Logan Grimnar, but his entry says he didn't become a Wolf Priest until after the First War for Armageddon- But by that point, Logan had already climbed the ranks to become the Great Wolf).

[shadow_archmagi]

It's also perfectly believable that Azrael is common name (either because it's a common name, or because it became a common name after the success of the first one) on their recruiting world, so it's not impossible for another one to have risen to power.

[t209]

Sanguinary Guard just have Dante's armour - which he's had since he first existed.

Do you have examples of Twilight references? Because as far as I'm concerned BAs have been drinking blood for over 20 years.

Well, they look beautiful and look like sparkly vampire from twilight. But I want to know when do they make Blood Angels look pretty.

[Squark]

Well, they look beautiful and look like sparkly vampire from twilight. But I want to know when do they make Blood Angels look pretty.

I'm not sure where you've got the sparkling bit from. As to their beauty, that a) Is hardly a new thing with Vampires (I.E. Dracula), and b) That's another long standing fluff convention. There's a reason for it too- The Death of Sanguinus and the Blood Angels suffering from the Black Rage is supposed to be a tragedy, because prior to that they were numbered among the greatest of all the legions, and Sanguinus was second only to Horus (And then only just). So the beauty thing is intended to evoke a "corrupted angel" mystique.

[Hazzardevil]

What about:
If you've never seen a heretic scream, you've never joined a witch hunt
Sung to the tune of this line.

[The Glyphstone]

Well, they look beautiful and look like sparkly vampire from twilight. But I want to know when do they make Blood Angels look pretty.

Blood Angels, as mentioned, have been beautiful since they were first introduced, since they were the children of the angelic-looking Sanguinus. Similarly, they've always drunk blood. And I have no idea why you think they sparkle.

[Borgh]

"Hmm I need a famous guy to name my kids after... I know! There is that famous former Chapter Master from this planet! who was named after one of dozens of Azreals that were important dudes in the last ten-thousand years!" sounds like a reasonable story.


I like "Warhammer 40K Fluff Thread VII: Roboute Guilliman, Gently Down The Stream..."for the next title.

[t209]

Is Tanith and Zweihan’s World the only Hive world that isn't East Meg One (Crime ridden and dark urban planets)? According to fluff for Tanith, there are forests that surrounds the hive cities. But Zweihan's World

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The Governor tried to declare independence when Imperium decided to increased tithe rate.

[The Glyphstone]

Well, Armageddon's a Hive World. But its hive cities are surrounded by toxic ash and Orks.

[GolemsVoice]

I always thought that was more or less standard. Because hive worlds are either naturally inhospitable, or just so toxic that the remaining space has to be used upwards rather than horizontally.

[BRC]

Is Tanith and Zweihan’s World the only Hive world that isn't East Meg One (Crime ridden and dark urban planets)? According to fluff for Tanith, there are forests that surrounds the hive cities. But Zweihan's World

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The Governor tried to declare independence when Imperium decided to increased tithe rate.

I don't think Tanith is a proper hive world. A Hive is basically an Arcology, I think you can have a planet with one or more small Hives (As opposed to standard cities) without it being a "Hive World" per say.

[The Glyphstone]

Lexicanum says it was a hybrid Agri World/Hive World....presumably, that means the Hives were built vertical to save as much land as possible for farming efforts. Either way, it got burned to a charred cinder, so there's no hives there anymore.

[TechnoScrabble]

I read somewhere that genestealers actually have a survival and feeding instinct, and that they try to flee the main Tyrannid hive mind via stolen voidcraft. Is this true? And if so, how do they manage to navigate without Navigators or Astropaths?

[Brother Oni]

I read somewhere that genestealers actually have a survival and feeding instinct, and that they try to flee the main Tyrannid hive mind via stolen voidcraft. Is this true? And if so, how do they manage to navigate without Navigators or Astropaths?

They have a strong streak of independence but are usually sent ahead of main hive fleets to infiltrate and soften up targets, rather than escaping from the hive fleet.

As for navigation, the easy answer is they don't. They just lurk in space hulks and the like and wait for the few times they drop into real space before launching any available dropships/transports on nearby inhabitable world or for greedy explorers to board the ship in search of salvage/treasure.

The brood's hivemind protects them from daemons and other Warp-based gribblies while the hulk is in the Warp, assuming none of the hybrids can get some Gellar fields up.

[The Glyphstone]

Sometimes they might 'flee' an approaching hive fleet, but that's not because they're running from the fleet.They're trying to blend in with all the other panicked refugees and resettle on the next planet over to prep it for Tyranid invasion as well.

[thereaper]

Page 49 -- that means one more page until we need a new thread.

And a new thread needs a new name.

My proposal: Warhammer 40K Fluff Thread VII: There's a Codex Entry For That

I vote for this one.

[lord_khaine]

Warhammer 40K Fluff Thread VII: There's a Codex Entry For That

I vote for this as well.

[GolemsVoice]

How about: Warhammer 40k fluff thread VII: Morally Justified?