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2012-10-27, 02:07 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Mass Effect 3.7: "That was for Thane"
Understandable. I only bring it up because the chaos that is platinum makes it fun. Not Rio, but the blood pack hitsquad. Or any similar synergized adventure.
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2012-10-27, 02:14 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Mass Effect 3.7: "That was for Thane"
How do you mean? Because I've never seen a Krogan char do that, let alone another race. Grenade+missile is basically how I've been leveling my destroyer (the one That Would Not Leave), except I've had to deal with the low cooldown that comes with giving him a Typhoon. (i.e. I haven't been dealing with it, because NSeven Destroyer sneers at caster playing).
The idea being that the team gathers and fights their way to the LZ come extraction? Or that by wave 10 everyone's got what they came for?
Huh. Of course, Collectors being hard mode period goes without saying. That's actually rather good. Bombers kill entrenched positions dead (Which, BTW, is how geth farming both on White and on Goddess died). Actually, Cerberus or Geth Platinum (without resorting to Collector Platinum, which just seems insane) would be a good test of this. If Collectors show up, but not Reapers, then that'd be a pretty good sign.
I've been using the Geth SMG since, well, pretty much since I got it unlocked (for my SMG needs, that is), since it's the closest thing to a machine gun the SMG slot has. It is rather lackluster against armor, but biotic booms take care of that quite nicely, especially if Dark Channel's the base.
Last I checked, I only had some phasic ammo, but I'm pretty sure I can do something to boost that.
Fair enough. I assumed it would be taking care of the "hack 4 objects" missions.
That's what I thought. Also, that last part is exactly why I consider it just fine to, if a boss monster is out of frame/far enough away not to matter, kill the honor guard of low-level mooks first, just so they're out of the team's hair.
On Platinum, I'd think that a larger area-of-effect would give your teammates more room to breathe (tying up a larger number of enemies with Singularity or Cryoblast, for instance), although I will admit that one-power-one-kill has its merits as well.
Not until wave 7? Really? You'd think the enemy would realize to attack from both ends much quicker. Or there simply aren't enough enemies in a single wave before that point where they'd path to both ends.
I'm fairly certain a biotic explosion can do it on silver, and, of course, killing the banshee before she kills the hapless teammate will interrupt it.
Is there a WGPlatinum strat for those of us that don't mind slow?
I just hammer the mic button and say something along the lines of "Don't rez me yet, there's [insert number and type of baddies], get rid of them first" while continuing to hammer the spacebar hoping that they can get rid of them before an executioner comes along with his groin-stomp of doom. And when I have it, my gel is always saved for the last second.
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2012-10-27, 03:29 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Mass Effect 3.7: "That was for Thane"
So would anyone who plays on 360 be interested in doing some Gold/Platinum runs in the next week? Most of the people I used to play with have unfortunately moved on to other games, and I seem to have terrible luck with randoms. My best class at the moment is the Turian Ghost, but I can play most classes with some degree of competency.
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2012-10-27, 06:39 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Mass Effect 3.7: "That was for Thane"
Shield recharge. Krogan rage evolution 5 gives you 15%, barrier or fortification give you 15%, biotic sphere increases it another 25%, a multicapacitor or stronghold hear grants roughly 10%, and a shield power cell 3 grants 30%, for a total of ~95% faster shield recovery; we did a test run on gold (to see if it was the strategy and not our play style) and both Krogan - one battlemaster, one soldier - reported "vorcha-like shield regeneration, [faster than] a banshee warp." if tech armor has a shield recharge speed boost, then all Krogan, all batarians, and the N7 destroyer all gain instantaneous regeneration. You can carry any guns you like; in fact, heavy guns are better, even on caster classes. More reliable.
The idea being that the team gathers and fights their way to the LZ come extraction? Or that by wave 10 everyone's got what they came for?
Huh. Of course, Collectors being hard mode period goes without saying. That's actually rather good. Bombers kill entrenched positions dead (Which, BTW, is how geth farming both on White and on Goddess died). Actually, Cerberus or Geth Platinum (without resorting to Collector Platinum, which just seems insane) would be a good test of this. If Collectors show up, but not Reapers, then that'd be a pretty good sign.
I've been using the Geth SMG since, well, pretty much since I got it unlocked (for my SMG needs, that is), since it's the closest thing to a machine gun the SMG slot has. It is rather lackluster against armor, but biotic booms take care of that quite nicely, especially if Dark Channel's the base.
I use the high velocity AP barrel on most SMGs. I don't need more damage against non-armored units, I do need to shoot through cover, and I do like murdering brutes. So.
On Platinum, I'd think that a larger area-of-effect would give your teammates more room to breathe (tying up a larger number of enemies with Singularity or Cryoblast, for instance), although I will admit that one-power-one-kill has its merits as well.
You aren't going to OHKO anything on platinum. Which means the target WILL be hit by another power and gun fire. The target generally will not survive two powers and an explosion, so as long as the damage range of two powers together is around 70% of the total health, you're fine.
So yes, area and Carrier effects are superior for damage in most instances. For proximity mine, I prefer damage, but that I because it has a use other than tech bursts.
Not until wave 7? Really? You'd think the enemy would realize to attack from both ends much quicker. Or there simply aren't enough enemies in a single wave before that point where they'd path to both ends.
Between 2 flamers, snap freeze and biotic charge only the heavies and maybe a well hidden phantom have any health left after a few seconds. It's only when there are three or four spawns like this they get to use faster than we knock them down.
Is there a WGPlatinum strat for those of us that don't mind slow?
I just hammer the mic button and say something along the lines of "Don't rez me yet, there's [insert number and type of baddies], get rid of them first" while continuing to hammer the spacebar hoping that they can get rid of them before an executioner comes along with his groin-stomp of doom. And when I have it, my gel is always saved for the last second.
I'm game. I usually play late, though; 08:00 GMT. I believe. It's 4:30 now, my math is off. Either Monday or Tuesday (US) I'll be on much earlier.
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2012-10-27, 09:52 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Mass Effect 3.7: "That was for Thane"
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2012-10-27, 12:51 PM (ISO 8601)
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2012-10-27, 05:14 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Mass Effect 3.7: "That was for Thane"
So, has anybody else noticed a new bug of late, where powers will just randomly do nothing to their target? And I don't mean they pass through them, I mean they appear to hit, but don't hurt them. Overload won't even chain if this happens. Seems to happen most often with Geth Bombers, but I've seen it on other enemies too. Gets pretty irritating at times.
Oh, and something great I discovered today: unlike with Tech Bursts, Warp can detonate a Fire Burst and still prime a biotic combo . Yep, Engineer and Adept teams just keep looking better ever since that change to Fire and Cryo Bursts.
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2012-10-27, 05:53 PM (ISO 8601)
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2012-10-27, 07:04 PM (ISO 8601)
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2012-10-27, 08:22 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Mass Effect 3.7: "That was for Thane"
I've had targeting issues, where the bomber moves slightly and no power hits directly behind it, looking like a hit but from the side missing by a mile.
Also, I think warp can detonate electric bursts and still prime, it's just inconsistent. It's also inconsistent in general. I've had to throw an incinerate up to tree times to finally get a burst out of some powers, and have actually had someone else detonate my incinerate with a proxy mine before I finally got the tech burst.
I will give that it's unlikely though. Trials with my old Turian sentinel went poorly last I tried.
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2012-10-27, 09:37 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Mass Effect 3.7: "That was for Thane"
As I said, I've seen this with other units too, and with powers that don't have a travel time, but rather just hit instantly, like overload. Just today I had my Salarian Engineer's Energy Drain mysteriously fail to affect a Geth Drone (from a Prime), which I was trying to use it on to replenish my shields. That was a very unpleasant surprise, to say the least. Also later in that match had the same thing happen when using it on a Geth Prime.
Hm, weird. I know I've found trying to get electric bursts off my Turian Sentinel or Engineers extremely inconsistent, but I was chalking that up to the electric residue not lasting long enough for warp/incinerate to always get there in time to detonate it. Other bursts I haven't found inconsistent at all, though. Well, except for the whole "do Cryo bursts work on armored/shielded enemies" thing, which I at first assumed they didn't since my Quarian Engineer couldn't seem to get them to happen, but now I've seen some of my Adepts detonate them on enemies like Dragoons and Geth Primes that have been chilled by a Cryo Blast or Cryo Ammo.
Still, biotic and fire bursts I haven't found inconsistent, at least so far.
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2012-10-27, 09:58 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Mass Effect 3.7: "That was for Thane"
I never mentioned travel time at all. Overload, energy drain, dark channel an reave are the powers I've experienced it with, on hunters, bombers, marauders, Dragoons and sometimes a mobile nemesis. The overload burst or the wavy reave cloud appears behind them close enough to outline them, like they are standing in front of a fire. I chalke it up to poor aiming on my end, as I'm going for headshots (198 more!) with the talon, and when holding the aiming button the highlighted targeting reticle gets finicky, dropping off temporarily due to a millimeter discrepancy.
Hm, weird. I know I've found trying to get electric bursts off my Turian Sentinel or Engineers extremely inconsistent, but I was chalking that up to the electric residue not lasting long enough for warp/incinerate to always get there in time to detonate it. Other bursts I haven't found inconsistent at all, though. Well, except for the whole "do Cryo bursts work on armored/shielded enemies" thing, which I at first assumed they didn't since my Quarian Engineer couldn't seem to get them to happen, but now I've seen some of my Adepts detonate them on enemies like Dragoons and Geth Primes that have been chilled by a Cryo Blast or Cryo Ammo.
Still, biotic and fire bursts I haven't found inconsistent, at least so far.
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2012-10-28, 12:57 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Mass Effect 3.7: "That was for Thane"
But powers with instant travel times literally cannot miss if you have the target highlighted properly. If the target is in cover and your angle is poor it might hit the cover instead, but if it's out of cover (which has been the case every time I've seen this), there's no room for error. Maybe you've missed due to the headshot thing you mentioned screwing with whether your targets were properly highlighted, but that definitely wasn't the case with the ones I've seen.
Cryo Blast -> Incinerate is completely consistent on enemies without protections. Cryo Blast is also quite handy in and of itself, since it can be specced to increase damage done to the target from all sources (to a greater degree than Warp with Expose) and weaken armor. And a Quarian Engineer can take the rank-6 Incinerate evolution that causes Incinerate to deal double damage to frozen or chilled enemies. Since Cryo Blast has a substantially shorter cooldown than Incinerate, that means that even with no burst, doing Cryo Blast -> Incinerate is good extra damage on anything without shields/barriers (since Incinerate does very little to those). That's basically the bread-and-butter of a Quarian Engineer.
You're quite correct that Cryo Blast cannot detonate bursts because it does not deal damage, that much is true. But of course that's not what it's for - it's a debuff, not an attack.
I have no idea what the issue with cryo bursts on protected enemies is, though. That's just got me scratching my head.
Edit: So, tonight after playing what I decided would be my final game, I was feeling a little weary and discouraged. For whatever reason I decided that, since I had enough money for one Premium pack, I'd address this by taking a chance on picking one up without removing any DLC first, and just see what I got. Wonder of wonders, what I got was a Volus Engineer.
So, a week of getting Premium packs with just the first DLC and I still don't have a Geth Engineer, but the one and only pack I've bought with the newest DLC installed immediately gets me an ultra-rare class. Honestly, I don't even know what to say about that anymore.
But enough about that - anyone care to recommend builds for the little guy? I perused his powers, but I really don't see anything jumping out at me immediately. Recon Mine looks like it could be very handy in any of several ways, Shield Boost I'm imagining is essential given their inability to take cover and low health, and I have no idea what to do with Proximity Mine, as I've never used it in single- or multi-player. Is 6/6/6/5/3 a good spread, as for most casters, or should I focus on more Fitness to offset the Volus lack of durability? If so, at the expense of what?
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2012-10-28, 12:58 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Mass Effect 3.7: "That was for Thane"
On volus, I sugget 6/6/6/5/3. Fitness is almost a waste of time if you have shield boost.
Recon mine, area of effect/?????/invasive scan is boss. I species my most recent for straight damage and it's honestly underwhelming. The lack I radius hurts and the damage isn't accuse enough to make up for not being able to shoot things better.
Proximity mine is an awesome power an I'm sad you haven't tried it. Either /radius/damage taken/recharge or damage/damage taken/damage work wonders. Radius and recharge allow you to spam an explosive which goes off near enemies, and increases the damage a group takes. Including on ye second mine, which does 20% more, and readies your other abilities faster. Straight damage is nice though too, and is my go-to for geth hunter. It's a workhorse power.
Shield boost works best with DR at rank six, but otherwise spec to your heart's content. I like radius, because I work with ranging allies a lot. Above silver, extra duration is useless but on silver it may be pretty slick.
For the passive, pick up 30% better shield boost at rank five.
It's only been a noticeable problem this last week, but I have enemies sporadically drop highlight for a split second. Several instant powers seem to have trouble tracking, mostly against geth. You haven't had annoying until the fifth time you fail to chain-stun a group of hunters and get dropped instead.
Cryo Blast -> Incinerate is completely consistent on enemies without protections. Cryo Blast is also quite handy in and of itself, since it can be specced to increase damage done to the target from all sources (to a greater degree than Warp with Expose) and weaken armor. And a Quarian Engineer can take the rank-6 Incinerate evolution that causes Incinerate to deal double damage to frozen or chilled enemies. Since Cryo Blast has a substantially shorter cooldown than Incinerate, that means that even with no burst, doing Cryo Blast -> Incinerate is good extra damage on anything without shields/barriers (since Incinerate does very little to those). That's basically the bread-and-butter of a Quarian Engineer.
You're quite correct that Cryo Blast cannot detonate bursts because it does not deal damage, that much is true. But of course that's not what it's for - it's a debuff, not an attack.
I have no idea what the issue with cryo bursts on protected enemies is, though. That's just got me scratching my head.
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And cryoblast can trigger bursts once in a blue moon. I've gotten tech burst on occasion and one highly anomalous fire burst. No one else targeted or shot the guy as I was in a solo match, and ammo wouldn't cause a burst even if it primed it. But there we were, silver, at the bottom of tuchanka, and the assault trooper goes up in bloody red chunks and a fiery sphere instead of freezing.Last edited by SiuiS; 2012-10-28 at 01:09 AM.
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Re: Mass Effect 3.7: "That was for Thane"
You only get a Cryo-Burst when the enemy is frozen, they can't just be chilled. So, in other words, you can only get a cryo explosion on an enemy that has health and no barriers/shields and only once they've completely frozen (ie they're falling over).
Once you have that in mind, cryo explosions drop in usefulness since...well...just look at what you need to do to tripper a cryo explosion with cryo blast!Warriors & Wuxia: A community world-building project focused on low-magic wuxia/kung-fu action using ToB.
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2012-10-28, 01:27 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Mass Effect 3.7: "That was for Thane"
Hm, in that case, wouldn't it be best to take 6/6/6/6/0? Or is that too much of a risk?
Hm, okay. I'd likely take damage at 5, since I go for minimum cooldown time with my guns anyway, making recharge a bit redundant. You're sure about invasive scan over armor damage at 6 though? That 75% damage boost looks awfully big, given how much damage the power does even with just the rank 5 damage boost.
Really? Even though the power itself gets several boosts to that, and it's up against a general power damage boost?
Huh, weird. I can't say I've seen the highlight dropping myself though.
In any event, whatever the specific bug may be, I really hope they fix it soon.
Eeyup. Warp's Expose does 15%, Cryo Blast with both Cryo Explosion at rank 5 and Frozen Vulnerability at rank 6 is 25%.
Not unless the power description is wrong - both upgrades specifically say "frozen and chilled targets." And I'd swear I've seen it do just that when I hit big, armored enemies that my allies are shooting at with it.
I certainly noticed the difference with Incinerate before the burst change - when I promoted my Engineer class to respec my Demolisher's arc grenades, I played a game with my Quarian Engineer while leveling up during which she had Incinerate at rank 5, just shy of having the upgrade that doubles its damage versus frozen/chilled enemies. I was trying to make cryo bursts out of mooks as I usually did, and found it much harder, because I couldn't simply cryo blast -> fire a little -> incinerate for a quick kill, since incinerate wasn't doing nearly as much as when I had her with that upgrade.
Huh, that's weird. Must be some kind of bug though - if the power were supposed to trigger bursts but wasn't doing so, I think they'd have noticed and fixed it by now. The reverse happening in extremely rare cases though, I could see slipping through the cracks.
That's what I thought when I first played my Quarian Engineer after that change, but I've since seen cryo bursts go off on enemies that don't even have health, including Dragoons and Geth Primes. So yeah, there's something screwy there.
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2012-10-28, 04:00 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Mass Effect 3.7: "That was for Thane"
The Volus dies to a mean look anyway, so it's really not all that dangerous to completely skip Fitness. You do have to get the hang of using Shield Boost and his melee abilities though. (Need to pop out of cover to slap a mine on an Atlas? Cloak. About to get mown down by a Brute?Put your shield up.)
The thing about Recon Mine is that the cooldown, even with 200% weight bonus and cooldown boosting equipment, is still about 5-6 seconds. You simply can't get it to the point where you can use it frequently enough to rely on it for damage. Using it for the AOE damage boost is much more useful. Detonating it is more of a last resort measure, like when you need to stop a synch kill.
If you want a power for spamming look to Proximity Mine instead (but take the Damage Taken upgrade at 5 anyway, because stacking the two on top of each other is great for bringing down bosses).
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2012-10-28, 04:10 AM (ISO 8601)
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Nah, it does go off on chilled targets. It's just weird on when it happens. Ice bursts off of bomber drones is my specialty, although ice and fire on primes is nice.
Yeah, 6/6/6/6/0 is best, but that's with gun enhancement and stuff. I figured you preferred caster play, and would occasionally be hit pretty hard during power cooldown. Once you get used to cloaking and dodging. Once your shield is gone, no amount of fitness will let you survive more than one bullet. And the damage boost on the heavy melee is pretty sweet.
Hm, okay. I'd likely take damage at 5, since I go for minimum cooldown time with my guns anyway, making recharge a bit redundant. You're sure about invasive scan over armor damage at 6 though? That 75% damage boost looks awfully big, given how much damage the power does even with just the rank 5 damage boost.
Really though, I think the loss of the radius killed it more than the loss of invasive scan. I plan on trying it out soon.
Really? Even though the power itself gets several boosts to that, and it's up against a general power damage boost?
Eeyup. Warp's Expose does 15%, Cryo Blast with both Cryo Explosion at rank 5 and Frozen Vulnerability at rank 6 is 25%.
Not unless the power description is wrong - both upgrades specifically say "frozen and chilled targets." And I'd swear I've seen it do just that when I hit big, armored enemies that my allies are shooting at with it.
I certainly noticed the difference with Incinerate before the burst change - when I promoted my Engineer class to respec my Demolisher's arc grenades, I played a game with my Quarian Engineer while leveling up during which she had Incinerate at rank 5, just shy of having the upgrade that doubles its damage versus frozen/chilled enemies. I was trying to make cryo bursts out of mooks as I usually did, and found it much harder, because I couldn't simply cryo blast -> fire a little -> incinerate for a quick kill, since incinerate wasn't doing nearly as much as when I had her with that upgrade.
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Regarding Cryo Explosions: Cryo Blast can only set them up on completely frozen targets. Snap Freeze, on the other hand, sets them up on both frozen and chilled targets, which is partially why it's so much better.
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Not true at all. For armored critters, throwing Incinerate (and maybe Carnage) or Throw will cause an explosion if they're chilled, and on shielded/barriered mooks using an anti-shield power will cause an explosion if (and this is the important part) there are still shields left.
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Hm, okay then. Though actually, I did just recently get a respec card in one of my batches of first-DLC-only Premium Packs, so I could try 6/6/6/6/0 and then switch to 6/6/6/5/3 if I find the total lack of Fitness too much.
Ah, okay then. That would explain what I've seen the couple of times I've played with Volus Engineers, actually - they seemed to be less interested in detonating the Recon Mine than I'd expect.
Huh, alright, good point.
Alright. Interesting play style option, though I'm not sure whether it's one I'll want to go for.
Not unless there's a base 10% damage increase to affected targets without Expose that the power makes no mention of. The base description only mentions weakening armor, which is a separate effect - and one which Cryo Blast also gets, and gets a bonus to from Frozen Vulnerability at rank 6. Though Warp also gets a bonus to it of equal size from Pierce at rank 6, and neither mentions what their base rate is, so it's impossible to compare them there.
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Huh. That seems consistent with memory, although I cannot test the shield explosion part. I did try a dry run last night to see if I could get cryo bursts off of protected targets but I never made it to Dragoons. All I really learned is a level 1 quarian engineer without turret is much less fun to play than I thought.
I've only seen a volus top the charts once, and he was packing some heat. I think an optimized multishot shotgun, and detonated his mine ASAP. Left the rest of us in bad spots to survive though, and I don't like situations where instead of rounding a corner and picking up a team mate, you get more kills.
If you want a more standalone build you'll need the volus adept. The power cool down bonus caps at +200%, and biotic spheres gives you +60%, do you can carry a gun as heavy as +50% and still have decent speed on shield boost. Combat volus engineers are less support and more hit and run. Lot of cloaking, dropping bombs, leading enemies and detonating.
Not unless there's a base 10% damage increase to affected targets without Expose that the power makes no mention of. The base description only mentions weakening armor, which is a separate effect - and one which Cryo Blast also gets, and gets a bonus to from Frozen Vulnerability at rank 6. Though Warp also gets a bonus to it of equal size from Pierce at rank 6, and neither mentions what their base rate is, so it's impossible to compare them there.
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I seem to have ran into a bit of a glitch in my game. I started playing because my friend invited me to a game and I had three characters that I know I haven't unlocked, being both ex-Cerberus characters and the Vorcha Soldier. I can't choose any appearance options, not even the primary color. At the same time I also lost access to my N7 Fury.
Now, I'm unsure if this related or not to the glitch but is everyone else seeing the new classes like Drell Infiltrator and Geth Soldier? As I can see their Cards in the selection screen now and I'm not sure whether my game is just messed up or if they added them.
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Well, I've tried out the Volus Engineer. The little guy is weird for me, but I think I do enjoy him.
Shield Boost is awesome, full stop. Recon Mine is very handy, though honestly I wasn't noticing the slow-down effect it was supposed to have. The fact that its cooldown kicks in when deployed rather than when detonated is actually kind of nice - discourages re-deploying it unless you've got some breathing room, but allows detonating it whenever it seems like a good idea without a cooldown. Makes it a good panic button if a bunch of weaker enemies are swarming you, or a good finisher for a weakened high-tier enemy that you need dead right away.
Proximity Mine I'm having some trouble with. I went damage/damage taken/damage, and it does do some nice damage, but the part where I hit things with it is proving annoying. It doesn't always seem to detonate on impact when I shoot it directly at things, and shooting it at their feet has been inconsistent as well. Sometimes I even get enemies not setting it off despite being practically on top of it. So, a question: does the radius boost from rank 4 increase just the explosion radius, or also the radius within which an enemy will trigger it? If the latter, it may be worth it for me to switch to that.
One problem I'm having with him is finding a gun to use, though. Even with the class talent rank 6 weapon weight decrease, his low carry capacity is a problem there, and since he doesn't have any particularly great general-use damaging power I do need to rely on a gun a bit more than I usually do. I was initially using the Geth Pulse Rifle, but honestly, even the damage boosts from the mines don't make its damage output worthwhile. So I did some experimenting with weapons I wouldn't normally use, including a couple I had used in single player and not liked. I probably did best with the Vindicator, but I still don't like it, with its relatively low ammo, awful accuracy at a distance, and substantial recoil using the zoom. I probably most liked the Mattock, but I only have it at rank 5, which is currently getting me 142% cooldown, for a good extra second or more on my cooldowns. So that'll need more ranks before I'll want to use it on him regularly. I don't know what to do for a weapon for him in the meantime, honestly.
And in some great news, I finally got my Geth Engineer! Actually, I got him twice in as many packs, much to my surprise, and partial annoyance, but hell, I'm just happy to finally have him.
I won't need as much advice on him as with the Volus, but I would like some nonetheless. I'll likely go my standard caster 6/6/6/5/3 with him, though I admit am a tad leery of Hunter Mode halving my shields when that's the Geth's main defense. That almost makes me want to put more in Fitness, but I'm not sure what I'd skimp on for it.
For Hunter Mode the first two choices are easy - power recharge and damage over weapon boosts any day - but I don't know about the last one, which is either a general damage boost or a speed and vision radius boost. And for the Geth Turret I'm most indecisive. It's clearly a choice between more firepower and better healing at each level, and I really don't know which I'd want to focus on. I'm pretty sure I'll take the flamethrower at rank 6, since I know from my Quarian Engineer how well that works, but the other two... I really don't know.
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I checked just now. I have no visual. So it's your box. Perhaps the lobby you joined was hacked?
Proximity mine has an erratic flight path; consider it an inaccurate gun. The mine does not always go straight out your barrel to the reticle point, nor does it always go straight from the barrel. On the volus, it tends to hit a degree or two left of the actual targeting reticle. It also only detonates upon a hit, or after having a moment to set; if you toss it literally at their feet, they may step over it out of range. It's best for popping Guys out of cover or dropping ahead of you while fleeing.
For gina I pack an SMG or an acolyte. I've seen lightweight snipers and shotguns but haven't tried them. The eagle is a godsend on this dude though.
For hunter mode, remember that odds are you'll have a turret to heal you. And hunter mode ups all damage - guns, powers, the works.
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I think Cryoblast stuff is a purposeful change. I used incinerate and such, for fire explosions. I found that you can no longer prime a shielded target with fire, but if you prime them, and drop their shields, suddenly they are on fire. So cryo affecting armor, fire not affecting barriers, tech being new to barriers might be purposeful shifts to change the dynamic.
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Still getting a hang of the Volus Adept. I die a lot, even if I spam Shield Boost. I need to learn to use the mini-cloak they get instead of melee. It can be a lifesaver. And when used right, Shield Boost can let the squad face off an Atlas without much danger.
Also, I'm not sure about something. Namely, whether or not Energy Drain detonates fire explosions. I thought it did, but it doesn't seem to work.
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The wiki has them already - I noticed that when checking the listings of gear there, to see what I have and would want from each DLC.
Honestly, I'm disappointed by quite a few of them. The Volus Vanguard is just the Volus Adept with Stasis traded for Biotic Charge, which is the same mistake of lazy class design they made with the second DLC. The Batarian Vanguard just takes the requisite Vanguard power (Biotic Charge), the power that the first two Batarians share (Blade Armor), and throws in Lash, which seems quite ill-suited to Vanguards to me.
On the strictly-personal-preference level, I was hoping I'd like the Volus Sentinel and Batarian Adept, but the former has no offensive powers (just Decoy, Shield Boost, and Combat Drone, making it a complete support class that will be totally reliant on guns to do damage), and the latter has grenades and can't combo his other two powers (Warp and Lash) on enemies with armor.
On the up side, the Turian Saboteur finally gives us an Engineer with Sabotage, and the Vorcha Hunter looks like something I might actually try, unlike the existing Vorcha. But yeah, otherwise, it looks like the new classes I'll most use/enjoy are already out - the Krogan Shaman and Asari Valkyrie.
Edit: I was wrong about the Asari Infiltrator, my bad.
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So, anyone have advice for me on statting that Geth Engineer?
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