It's a bit more silly than I tend to like(because really, you don't need a W in every single word), but at the same time it seems rather interesting. I'll probably keep reading it whenever I think of it.
I really like Erfworld's look and feel. It seems "childlike" at first glance, but it's clearly carefully crafted to look that way. Can't wait for more!
Meh. Not a fan of the dialogue, language style, or art style. In six pages there was only one joke that even made me smirk (4th page, panels 1-5) and one smirk per 6 pages isn't really worth the time. There are many webcomics which are better. Having said that, I believe this comic will be hugely successful if only because it is piggybacking OoTS.
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I think it's an outstanding complement to OOTS. Kudos to Rich for grabbing it up for GITP, and to the Erfworld designers for coming up with what promises to be a story rich in subtlety and good humor.
I thought it had some funny jokes, I especially liked the text-messaging gag. I'm not a huge fan of it's art style, but I think overall I will come back to it.
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I can't see myself reading much more, if any, of this. The artwork is fine; but other than that - I didn't see a lot of appeal. I find the "childlike" aesthetic to be particularly annoying. The story wasn't particularly appealing - though with only 6 panels a judgement may be premature. First OOTS strip had me laughing out loud. This strip had me cringing over "Dwagon" and a story line that doesn't make me want to come back for more. And missing that hook is a fatal mistake.
I like the art pretty well, though I feel like some of the characters are inconsistent with eachother, which I thought wasn't the best (i.e., Wanda and the commander look like they came out of different comics--but otherwise the art is really well done). However, I thought the dialogue and the plot (thus far) aren't that great. We'll have to see. I'll keep reading it until it has been confirmed for me that it's just dumb or useless. At which point I will stop.
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Well, you know what I think? Other than the having humor part, OotS and Erfworld have very different styles: both in story progression, artwork, characters, even the style of humor. That's actually why it's good to have it here, as it will attract people who may not enjoy OotS (well, we're talking about very few people, probably about a dozen or so ), and make our collective community greater. Some people who enjoy OotS may not enjoy Erfworld, and vice versa. Some people may enjoy both. Some people won't enjoy neither of them (well, who are those idiots?). But if this is what Giant wants, then this is what you get.
Overall impression I got was slow, confusing, and annoying with the child-speak. Ironically since this is supposed to be the 'build up to the punchline' comic, everything is way over the top and trying too hard for the laugh.
Oh look, we say dwagon instead of dragon, we say croak instead of die, we say this instead of that, it's funny, right? RIGHT?? Meh.
What's gradual and built-up about putting a baby's squeaky toy where a divine hammer should be? Nothing, it's cheap and slapsticky.
My verdict: An average-to-OK comic enjoying one hell of a free ride by having been cushily placed on top of OOTS's coattails.
I voted that I like the humor, plot and art style, and that I'll keep reading (although perhaps not as regularly as OOTS)
I've not commented on the childish qualities of the script. Why? Two reasons.
First, my initial thought when I read it was Monty Python - "welease Woger!!!" I have a feeling that the childishness of it will ultimately contribute to the story.
Second - people, we are here to read a comic about stick figures, for goodness sake!!! Hello!?!? Pots and kettles!
As I said earlier, I probably won't check for updates as regularly as I do for OOTS - not because I necessarily like it less (they are very different comics), but because my impression so far is that the extended story arc will be better to read in large sittings, rather than individual strips.
I think I already answered this in another thread but I wanted to do my part to help the Giant.
I like the humor and the story seems pretty decent so far.
The 'cutesy speak' annoys me a lot more than I thought it would.
The art, while good, is not a style that I enjoy.
I will probably check the comic occasionally. However, I probably wouldn't if it was on a different site that I didn't visit regularly.
My 2 cents...
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Well, lets start with the good points: The artwork is ok - I don't necessarly like the style at present, but I think that I will get used to it. The dialogue is well thought out and rings true (how many bosses fail to understand the underlying technical foundations, yet think they know all). There is enough humour there to start with.
(And I really liked the notebook, and I am not particularly fussed about the "babytalk" as most of the dialogue is fairly clear)
The weak point, however, is that what we are getting is essentially a single page (or possibly two) of a print comic every few days. This makes it quite frustrating to read. OOTS scores well here because - even though there is a long storyline - each strip usually stands well on its own. With Erfworld I think it will feel like I am being drip-fed the occasional page.
Perhaps this would be better as a once-a-week update, with several pages in each update (I am showing my age and nationality here - I grew up on weekly comics).
However, we've only had 6 pages so far. That's not really long enough for me to make any meaningful decision. I'm going to keep reading, after all, there is plenty of potential here.
Second - people, we are here to read a comic about stick figures, for goodness sake!!! Hello!?!? Pots and kettles!
Um. You're comparing two completely different things; there's nothing childish about the OOTS style of drawing. It's just very simple, getting rid of non-essentials so as to concentrate on the characters, the story and of course the humour. The childish humour of Erfworld, by contrast, is intrusive; evidently some people like it and some don't, but either way, you can't ignore it.
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Um. You're comparing two completely different things; there's nothing childish about the OOTS style of drawing.
You're saying this about a comic that told the story of creation using crayons?
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The childish humour of Erfworld, by contrast, is intrusive; evidently some people like it and some don't, but either way, you can't ignore it.
I did. I didn't notice the "dwagon" until it was pointed out to me and I still don't see what the fuss is about. What difference does it make if the occasional w is present? I can't possible see how this "childlike" substitution of letters constitutes either a certain type of humour or detracts from the overall humour of the strip.
Tell me, are there really people that can't/won't get a joke when the word is not spelt "correctly"? I can't understand that at all.
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I think the nomenclature is both funny and possibly problematic simultaneously (specifficalyl I like the term Croakamancer ALOT), and there are definately some pretty good designs and gags going in, however, overall I think it's too early to tell how successful it will be as a gestalt, or at least in the short run of things.
Yet at the same time, after seeing Giant Elvis like deities shaping the world, I think there's mor ethan a flickering flame of hope that this is going to be a blast.
...I'm awfully looking forward to the intro of the blonde with the big sword from the character art page though.
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Erfworld seems interesing. The Artwork is good, even though the style is different from OotS. The plot hasn't really shown itself yet, but has potential. I'm indifferent to the slight name changes.
Hey, stop knocking on the "childish speech". The impression I got was that the creatures were actually called gobwins and dwagons. That this is the way the language is. I mean, you can't blame german for sounding like a violent language, it's just how it grew up. I, personally, like it. I think it's the comedic yin to OOTS yang.
Besides, how can you dislike something that has dwagons attacking with giant flaming piles of poo. It's rich in hilarity. However you spell it.
It hasn't made me laugh out loud, but it has a very yummy feel to it, and has made me smile more than once. The use of the word "croak" was pure genius. I still smile when I think of what the various specialist mages are called.
Over all, very silly (but that's what I like about it), and very clever.
Hm, it seems to have potential but I'm still waiting for something. Just, something that entertains me as much as OotS has.
Personally, I don't mind the "Dwagons" and "Twolls" but the "Smchuckers" part kind of made me lose interest. May just be me, but I don't think the dialogue mixes with the 'mature' style of art with the Croakamancer lady and the arrow in Lord Manpower's eye.
I'm very interested in seeing an addition to the site, it would be nice to have a new update each day with them rotating in and out. Its definitely got potential, but we'll just have to wait and see if it goes the distance.
Also, the comics could be a bit longer. I probably breezed through those six shorts faster then the Redemption of Cliffport. Although I understand the artwork must take forever, making it take a while to construct a comic, but it needs to be decently long to compare to the OotS comic strips.
I'm gonna have to go with "sitting on the fence" like others here too. I like the art and the funky names for things, but the rest is average at best imo. I'm going to keep reading though, as I'm sure it'll pick up. It's a youngling!
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The absurdist feel of the first page - Elvises as Titans, and the one gem that changed everything? - Loved.
The oddball bits to the humor, like, "Every fifth or sixth walnut turns into a pigeon"? Likewise, love.
The cutesy trying-too-hard humor? Kill it with fire. Dwagons and croakomancers, begone.
The artwork? Not a fan. It doesn't seem to have any internal consistency so my eyes kind of glaze over it.
Story elements? Could be promising.
Gags about text messaging in a book? Not my cuppa, at all.
Overall impression: it seems forced. If it were a random site I stumbled across, I'd click away without bookmarking. Since it's here, I'll probably check it out again some time when OotS is late or what have you, and if the bad outweighs the good that time, I won't go back.
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Wait, there are people who actually like this!? As much as i like OOTS, I find erfworld horrible. Not even remotely funny, just horrible. To say it in OOTSish way: Wow, this is a dumb comics, I feel dumber just reading it. ;x
I'm interested. The plot seems to be shaping up ok, but I do find myself checking back too often to see if it got updated(yes, I know when it comes out...hehe ). So we'll see!
Wait, there are people who actually like this!? As much as i like OOTS, I find erfworld horrible. Not even remotely funny, just horrible. To say it in OOTSish way: Wow, this is a dumb comics, I feel dumber just reading it. ;x
Nice to see the art of constructive criticism is still alive in this day and age.
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Nice to see the art of constructive criticism is still alive in this day and age.
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Wait, there are people who actually like this!? As much as i like OOTS, I find erfworld horrible. Not even remotely funny, just horrible. To say it in OOTSish way: Wow, this is a dumb comics, I feel dumber just reading it. ;x
This comment from abc.d is in a certain sense remarkable. I'm impressed by the way abc.d managed to insult the people who made the comic, people in this thread who said they liked it, and of course people who thought it was worthy enough to be part of GIANTIP. Wow! I'm saving this one.