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2012-08-10, 02:23 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #860 - The Discussion Thread
They were in such a situation once before, and found another answer.
However, Tarquin is guilty of certain crimes. If nothing else, he's plotting (and likely has committed) treason against the Empress of Blood, so there's a potential judge. Alternately, Tarquin has recently committed offenses against the people of the Free City of Doom. It is possible that they may wish to make him answer for his actions under their legal system.
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2012-08-10, 02:33 AM (ISO 8601)
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2012-08-10, 02:38 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #860 - The Discussion Thread
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Their: a possessive pronoun like “her” or “our”
There: refers to a place ("the Kobold is over THERE"), or to indicate the existence of something, or to mention something for the first time. ("THERE is a Halfling sneaking up on him")
They're: a contraction of “they are.”
Also: Your/You're, Its/It's, Then/Than.
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2012-08-10, 02:49 AM (ISO 8601)
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2012-08-10, 02:52 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #860 - The Discussion Thread
Interesting question - Has Durkon recognised Kilkil, or is he one of those anti-kobold speciesists who think that all kobolds look the same?
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2012-08-10, 02:55 AM (ISO 8601)
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2012-08-10, 04:11 AM (ISO 8601)
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2012-08-10, 04:18 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #860 - The Discussion Thread
I just noticed that Roy's girlfriend and Nale's girlfriend are also counterpart to eachother. Celia (Roy) wears blue and have fairy wings while Sabine (Nale) wears red and have demon wings. Celia is a pacifist but Sabine is violent.
Too bad Sabine is gone. We never get to know if she's a demon (Cold iron) or devil (silver). "Sniff"
They can't even have children (or can they! )Badly drawn helmet avatar drawn by me.
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2012-08-10, 04:32 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #860 - The Discussion Thread
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2012-08-10, 04:33 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #860 - The Discussion Thread
Great gag!!!
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2012-08-10, 05:12 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #860 - The Discussion Thread
If you read the spell description, you'll find that Holy Word says:
Any nongood creature within the area that hears the holy word suffers the following ill effects.
It's only the banishment of outsiders which does not require the target to hear. That probably won't have an effect on this battle, though.
So Belkar heard the spell. The trap door he was hinding behind was probably the same one the sawblade trap came out of. That trap was triggered just before Durkon said the Holy Word, so the door to it was probably still open. That would let Belkar hear it. If not, then Belkar probably kept the door open a smidgen to see what was going on, so would have heard the Word that way.
Before this strip was posted, I was contemplating starting a thread speculating on what was going to happen in the next round the the ambush. The laws of drama indicated that Belkar would be the next to get involved and that he would enter from above.
At first I thought of an elaborate scheme where Durkon creates a small platform near the ceiling by means of Stone Shape. He would borrow Belkar's Ring of Jumping (and shed his armor) to get up that high (it's a touch spell). But I also thought of an alternative where Belkar hides in the same space the sawblade trap came out of. (I now wish I'd started that thread, since that was what happened.) I figured Belkar could avoid the effects of the Holy Word by wearing earplugs. But then I thought the darkness from the smokestick would make it too difficult for him to see where to jump. OK, I was wrong on these last two items.
Someone upthread (sorry it's late, and I don't have time to hunt for the post) claimed that no one thought that Belkar would be subject to the effects of Holy Word. Not true. At least one (and I think several) people pointed out that one of the spell's limitations was that both Belkar and V would be subject to it if Durkon had cast it in their presence. Interesting to see how the giant turned that limitation upside down...
So the next person to enter the fray should be Elan. Unless Roy has him tied up and gagged so he didn't ruin the ambush by loudly proclaiming his move silent roll... Assuming he isn't, where is his hiding place?
Roy should be getting involved but he doesn't seem to be moving anywhere. If he does move down the corridor, he'll first encounter the mummies. I expect he could take them all out with one or two Great Cleaves. Or possibly he could just run past them, since their controller, Malack, can no longer see them and order them to attack. Would they attack on their own initiative?
1 I do wonder about the last entry in the list of Holy Word effects. Anyone more than 9 levels below the caster's level are "Killed, paralyzed, blinded, deafened". Aren't the last three kind of superfluous? Or do they apply to the spirit of the character in the afterlife?Curated Thread: Gazetteer of the Stick
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2012-08-10, 05:28 AM (ISO 8601)
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2012-08-10, 05:47 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #860 - The Discussion Thread
heh heh heh heh,
All new kinds of spell failure.
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2012-08-10, 05:48 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #860 - The Discussion Thread
Another awesome update by the Giant! I love how he could work in Belkar's alignment in a logical way.
I also like how it proves Tarquin is higher level (as he should be).
The question is if Quarr will also be sent away, since he is within range of the spell (40 feet), even though he couldn't hear it.
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2012-08-10, 05:49 AM (ISO 8601)
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2012-08-10, 06:04 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #860 - The Discussion Thread
Loved the strip. Laughed out loud (bad idea as I am in work).
: "... WHAT?"
: "It's not a bug. It's a feature."
Really brightened up my day.
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2012-08-10, 06:17 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #860 - The Discussion Thread
Has it ever been stated anywhere that Kilkil even *has* any levels? He's just a bureaucrat in the Empire of Blood, and I'm pretty sure shuffling papers around doesn't grant any XP. I assumed that he was just flat-out killed by the Holy Word.
Why did they bring him along, anyway? He had nothing useful to contribute to the party at all.
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2012-08-10, 06:28 AM (ISO 8601)
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A-hahahahaha! Best in a long time. Hilarious. As a software engineer I strongly approve of Roy's statement.
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2012-08-10, 06:48 AM (ISO 8601)
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My favorite strip in a long while! Roy trolling Belkar never grows old
I prepared Explosive Runes this morning.
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2012-08-10, 06:49 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #860 - The Discussion Thread
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English isn't my primary language, so please let me know if something I'm saying doesn't make sense!Continuation of ThePhantasm's awesometacular post
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2012-08-10, 07:08 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #860 - The Discussion Thread
This thread is umpteen pages already, so I didn't check if anyone mentioned this yet:
The Suggestion will remain in effect, and will become dangerous when Belkar's deafness wears off. Durkon should probably dispel it, just in case Nale survives long enough to order the Belkster to do some evil.
Well, do evil for his side, anyway.
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2012-08-10, 07:15 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #860 - The Discussion Thread
He didn't? Remember, he thought he'd sent Vaarsuvius to the Demiplane of Extremely Painful Torture.
And absolutely no reason to do so. Nale is obsessed with being Elan's evil twin. He is not obsessed with following some optimization template.
Everyone has either levels or racial hit dice, and kobolds don't have racial hit dice. Whatever form of kobold has wings might, but while I look askance at people who suggest that Tarquin's secretary is too important a job not to be a high-level adventurer, I also look askance as the suggestion that Tarquin would choose someone completely unskilled for it. Most likely Kilkil is a decently leveled Expert.Orth Plays: Currently Baldur's Gate II
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2012-08-10, 07:21 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #860 - The Discussion Thread
I'm pretty sure that as long as she's technically the empress, overthrowing her is technically treason.
I figure it's for creatures that can't be killed for some reason. Constructs, for example, can't be killed because they aren't alive; but they can see, so blinding works on them.
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2012-08-10, 07:26 AM (ISO 8601)
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Oh god, that's absolutely brilliant... That "evil" thing does have its perks, eh?
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2012-08-10, 07:52 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #860 - The Discussion Thread
I just realised that we FINALLY have definitive proof that Belkar is not Chaotic Good
No, wait, they could have deafened Belkar prior to Holy Word. Never mind. It's still up in the air.
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2012-08-10, 07:53 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #860 - The Discussion Thread
Which also, incidentaly, demonstrates the Hayley is 'Good-ish' enough to be unaffected by the Holy Word. I had wondered, briefly, if she was sufficiently Neutral to be affected, but apparently not.
(She looks a bit perturbed in the final panel, but that's probably just concentration...)
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2012-08-10, 08:05 AM (ISO 8601)
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2012-08-10, 08:24 AM (ISO 8601)
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2012-08-10, 08:26 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #860 - The Discussion Thread
Conversely, this is an excellent reason for Tarquin to either surrender or (more likely) pull a one-shot magical retreat device out of his utility belt once he gauges the situation to be unwinnable. Couldn't Malack have made some sort of Word of Recall device for him? (Sorry, been too many years since I've been able to play)
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2012-08-10, 08:27 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #860 - The Discussion Thread
Awesome comic. Thanks, Giant!