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2014-02-26, 04:14 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Warhammer 40k Fluff Thread VIII: "Khorne's Most Favourite Thread EVER"
That was always the most fun part of the fantasy books too. Like, in one of the old Warhammer Fantasy big rulebooks, every chapter started with another page of the Epic of Sigmar, written in ballad form. Or the Skaven: their army description started with a two-page handwritten document by an Imperial scholar, listing all the evidence as to why a race of ratmen couldn't exist below the Empire.
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2014-02-26, 04:25 AM (ISO 8601)
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There Are No Skaven In The Empire.
The level of the lie is on par with the Imperium's attempt to deny Chaos exists. In the Old World, it's perfectly fine to know about the crazy marauders in the north who worship the old Gods, you can know about the Beastmen in the forest, but, There Are No Skaven In The Empire.
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2014-02-26, 09:57 AM (ISO 8601)
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2014-02-26, 10:06 AM (ISO 8601)
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2014-02-26, 10:30 AM (ISO 8601)
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2014-02-26, 10:43 AM (ISO 8601)
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2014-02-26, 02:11 PM (ISO 8601)
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2014-02-26, 03:04 PM (ISO 8601)
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Sadly, they look like this now:
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2014-02-26, 04:05 PM (ISO 8601)
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2014-02-26, 05:03 PM (ISO 8601)
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Because their schtick in 40K wouldn't work. At best, they maybe could be considered as Just Another Mutant Gang in the underhives of various spires. At their worst, they're already outdone by Orks (you can never Catch 'em All), Tyranids (they're in the walls!) and Necrons (g-g-g...Ghosts! What do you mean you built your house on a Necron Burial Mound!?).
Or, if you really, really loved them, would you rather them be a throwaway race on a throwaway planet like the Beastmen? I just don't see the point of Skaven in 40K, especially when killing Ratmen would be second-nature to half the Imperium.
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2014-02-26, 05:12 PM (ISO 8601)
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I disagree, the Skaven have always had that mad science thing going for them. I can just see them deploying weapons that tap into the warp, hurl bolts of anti-matter and generally mess with technology that saner races wouldn't touch. Devastating armies (wether their's or their enemies) with glorious, ratty abandon
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2014-02-26, 05:18 PM (ISO 8601)
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Necrons have a pretty solid lock on the 'super-science' thing, followed by Eldar and their warptech. Tyranids are all about sacrificing their own for short-term gain, to the point where their assault organisms lack digestive tracts. Orks bring the black-comedy angle.
Skaven just don't have anything to offer, thematically, that another race doesn't already do better. The Tyranids are probably their closest spiritual counterpart that doesn't already have an equivalent IN SPAAAAACE, but the Tyranids are actually menacing, what the Skaven could be in Fantasy if they were even remotely competent as a species.NOW COMPLETE: Let's Play Starcraft II Trilogy:
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2014-02-26, 05:21 PM (ISO 8601)
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2014-02-26, 05:24 PM (ISO 8601)
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40K Skaven only is okay if we get Fantasy Tau
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2014-02-26, 05:26 PM (ISO 8601)
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2014-02-26, 05:27 PM (ISO 8601)
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Aren't the Lizardmen a bit like this - obsessed with "The Greater Good" of the Warhammer Fantasy world - and willing to destroy anything that gets in the way of it?
They're divided into multiple castes, too, which are "born that way" - warriors (Saurus) artisans (skinks) rulers (Slann) etc.
There's lots of differences (no new Slann are being born, for one thing) - but they could be said to occupy a similar niche.
But then again - they could also be said to occupy the Tyranid niche - with all their "bioweapons" (Salamander breath, Razordon spines, Troglodon spit).Last edited by hamishspence; 2014-02-26 at 05:29 PM.
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2014-02-26, 05:34 PM (ISO 8601)
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They're also isolated and not neccessarily overly agressive, focusing more on defending and holding territory. However, the Tau do conquer, and not just defend, and the lizardmen don't want converts.
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2014-02-26, 05:39 PM (ISO 8601)
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I agree, really. Orcs take clan Skryre's shtick. Science that abuses the warp in terrible ways and sometimes blows up spectacularly. Plus, thanks to spores, they have endless numbers.
Tyranids take clan moulder's shtick. Giant monsters, all with a similar theme. Plus, they have endless numbers.
Really, there's not really a niche left for Skaven in 40k, said as it is.Resident Vancian Apologist
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2014-02-26, 05:44 PM (ISO 8601)
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It's not so much as having a niche left. It's that in 40K, their niche doesn't exist at all. It's like
SquatsDemiurg all over again. A very industrious race that churns out weapons and stuff...That's cool. But the Imperium has Forge Worlds which churn out anything the Imperium wants on a daily basis, and there's more than one Forge World. This is why nobody talks about the Demiurg - or the Beastmen. They don't matter.
Skaven are stealthy mutants. Really? 40K needs more of those?
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2014-02-26, 05:56 PM (ISO 8601)
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Well, I'd say their niche does exist. It's just that, as you said, it has already been taken by a lot of other races.
Mutant humans? All over. (THough they are probably mutant rats, not mutant men). High tech? Necrons, Eldar, Tau... Dangerous tech? Orcs. Endless numbers? Tyranids, orcs. Ninja assassins? Dark Eldar, Officio Assassinorum. Living in the Empire, with no one realizing the danger is here? Genestealers, mutants again.Resident Vancian Apologist
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2014-02-28, 04:05 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Warhammer 40k Fluff Thread VIII: "Khorne's Most Favourite Thread EVER"
Genestealer cults seem like a pretty close analogue, actually.
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2014-02-28, 08:14 AM (ISO 8601)
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Loth as I am to admit on the internet that other peoples arguments have changed my mind but it does seem that Tyrannids cover what the Skaven would bring to the setting (apart from diseases, I always wondered why the Tyrannids didn't use germ warfare more)
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2014-02-28, 09:51 AM (ISO 8601)
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Tyranids do use micro-organisms as part of the final stages of consuming a planet, literally absorbing even the bacterial life therein with their own Xenos equivalents.
Actual "diseases", however, fall under the domain of Nurgle. Part of the reason that the Imperium doesn't always commit Exterminatus upon Daemon Worlds is because some methods of Exterminatus involve virus bombing, and the last thing that they want to do, is to "give the Daemons ideas".
How "micro-organisms", "bacteria" and "diseases" differ in the 40k universe, unlike in the Real World, I couldn't hope to tell you.
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2014-02-28, 10:35 AM (ISO 8601)
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For me, the crazy, self-destructive tech is the most fun part of playing Skaven. I have remodelled half my army to be Skryre, from the smoke-generator wielding, steam-powered assassination-cyborgs, to the three story tall, four-armed, steam-powered hellpit battlemech. Clan Moulder, really, is the least interesting to me. So, I'd rather go for orcs than nids, if I wanted to model Skaven.
Not that I don't like Nids. I have a nid army, now, though I've rebuilt most of them to have between eight and twenty limbs, instead of the customary six.Resident Vancian Apologist
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2014-02-28, 11:03 AM (ISO 8601)
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Tyranid bacteria would not be bacteria, they would be mono-cellular eukaryotic cells capable of self propulsion. They would ideally be highly toxic and capable of phagocytosis, the former to kill larger prey life forms they encounter, the latter to digest microscopic food and prey.
The spores used to tyrannoform plant life would also likely be microscopic and highly toxic, but would instead secrete a vast number of various plant and fungal hormones.
/end science rant.Sanity is nice to visit, but I wouldn't want to live there.
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