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2008-08-27, 09:41 PM (ISO 8601)
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2008-08-27, 09:42 PM (ISO 8601)
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Hmmm... I can see why that arrangement would make more intuitive sense, but there's no in-canon evidence I recall that indicates that the arrangement as written is wrong. It'll just have to come down to a Titanic revelation stating either 1)"it's supposed to be that way, even if it seems odd" or 2)"oops".
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2008-08-27, 10:43 PM (ISO 8601)
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here wanda calls it fate magic: Erf13, panel 6
The reason is that the spell is highly luckmancy based and should pulse with erf magic if the klog was correct. But since it did pulse with fate and it makes more sense as fate anyways it most likely is fate.Last edited by Chadwick; 2008-08-27 at 10:54 PM.
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2008-08-27, 11:08 PM (ISO 8601)
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Wanda said that it was Fate magic; but you forget that Predictamancy is Fate, and the spell was made by a combination of Findamancy and Predictamancy. No Luckmancy involved.
I can see your point there about how Healomancy and Luckmancy could be switched, but you should really try to have a little more tact than "I think my version is better than canon, so I think the canon is wrong".Last edited by Justyn; 2008-08-27 at 11:25 PM.
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2008-08-27, 11:36 PM (ISO 8601)
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2008-08-29, 07:14 AM (ISO 8601)
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2008-09-16, 03:07 PM (ISO 8601)
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Note to self. P110/122 fix massive confusion caused by me. (p106 panel 11 "thirteen pairs of warlord eyes" and art fix to p110 panel 9 so it doesn't look like the one is on a gwiffon).
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2008-09-16, 03:23 PM (ISO 8601)
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Originally Posted by Chadwick
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2008-10-07, 03:49 PM (ISO 8601)
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2008-10-07, 04:13 PM (ISO 8601)
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2008-10-07, 04:20 PM (ISO 8601)
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I'm still not getting where the "thirteen" figure comes from -- Vinny and Jillian were part of the original expeditionary force, and Don King sent ten additional warlords -- the best way I can make sense of it is if Don King sent ten regular warlords and Caesar (apparently Chief Warlord, since Vinny addresses him as "chief").
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2008-10-07, 04:36 PM (ISO 8601)
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2008-10-12, 04:33 AM (ISO 8601)
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The way I see that comic, there isn't a continuity problem.
How Jillian handles her weapons, panel by panel:
Panels 1-4: Jillian ignores weapons and struggles with freeing hands.
Panel 5: Gives up and grabs knife for defense.
Panels 6,7: Takes opportunity while dwagon is distracted to get huge sword instead. As a true warrior, bringing her primary weapon to 'ready' would be instinctual the moment someone else took her enemy's attention away.
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2008-10-13, 08:34 AM (ISO 8601)
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Now included under blooper #26. Thanx.
That is highly unlikely; she is in a precarious position; in panel 5 she is shown holding a dagger as Ansom begins his attack; in panel 6 Ansom finishes his attack; in panel 7 Jillian is holding something in the exact same position as the dagger in panel 5. Also, it violates the law of conservation of detail: why would she be shown drawing Chekhov's dagger in panel 5, if not to use it?Last edited by Freederick; 2008-10-13 at 08:52 AM.
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2008-10-13, 08:40 AM (ISO 8601)
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Duly noted, blooper #33.
BTW, it's p107, not 106--this is the sort of confusion that follows from not giving descriptive titles to TOC entries.
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2008-10-13, 11:01 AM (ISO 8601)
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I'll grant the 'precarious position' part. I'm not too familiar with "Chekhov's dagger" or "The law of conservation of detail", but sometimes, an author includes non-plot details for the shear fact that such details are completely what 'happened'. I see this as a case of that. Jillian grabs a reserve dagger because a warrior of her caliber always has a reserve dagger, not because it furthers the plot, and by the same token, when given the opportunity, she grabs her main weapon again because a warrior that good is trained to do just that. I know I've read stories before where there were details that kinda just were, and I enjoyed them more for it.
Besides, from the narrative, it seems as if Ansom/Vinny were able to mop up everything without Jillian, so if conservation of detail is important, why show what is happening to her at all?
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2008-10-13, 02:08 PM (ISO 8601)
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Guys, that's not a dagger. It's the hilt of the sword you're seeing. The sword is facing the other way and is buried in the dwagon's face.
Rob Balder, Erfworld author/co-creator, and creator of PartiallyClips
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2008-10-13, 02:23 PM (ISO 8601)
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Um, it's pretty indisputably a dagger. 5th panel (4th row), far left side. I think you may have misunderstood what they were arguing about.
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"I just ESP it a half-twist and. . ." Mark Clifton, "Star, Bright"
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2008-10-13, 07:11 PM (ISO 8601)
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2008-10-13, 09:54 PM (ISO 8601)
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Sorry for correcting you, Mr. Makes-an-Awesome-Webcomic Man.
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The Diamond Mind (A Tome of Battle prestige class)
"I just ESP it a half-twist and. . ." Mark Clifton, "Star, Bright"
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2008-10-14, 10:26 AM (ISO 8601)
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2008-10-15, 12:31 PM (ISO 8601)
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Continuity issue, with thread made to discuss it here. Basically, too many TV warlords in the hex, and no one being able to count them properly, even if there were a more proper amount.
Except Parson has a day's worth of unit production, and while he doesn't control the city's production, he does control Sizemore's, whom I assume is the popping golems anyway.
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2008-10-29, 04:16 PM (ISO 8601)
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I am not quite sure I understand you here.
In 1-4 she is struggling with getting her hands free.
In 5 we see her with a dagger, and we see Manpower's sword falling, because he got attacked by Ansom.
In 7 we see her holding a hilt that looks to big to be the same dagger. This is what the issue with the strip is.
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2008-11-04, 05:58 PM (ISO 8601)
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#34 - Page 52 - Klog #06
Minor Grammar Nitpick for Critical Fact 1:
"Stupid, Stupid Meal"
should either be "Stupid Stupid Meal" (no comma, if the 'Stupid Meal' is 'stupid')
or "Stupid, stupid meal" (if the 'meal' is really stupid)
Capitalization suggests the former.
heng, grammar nazi
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2008-11-12, 01:00 AM (ISO 8601)
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Heng: It's disputed.
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Note: p120, Jamie did not draw the uncroaked Jaclyn in Wanda's stack and should have. It will be fixed for the book. She'll be in there in p121 and was in in p119. Just an oversight.
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That's a good idea. Confusion does seem to be rampant. Courtyard refers to the portion of the Garrison that is above ground, within the walls, and not in or on the Tower. Wanda is not in the Garrison zone at all in page 122. She's in the Outer Walls zone.
We've been attempting to avoid confusion by keeping it simple and avoiding unnecessary detail (like, for example, the fact that the Outer Walls zone also has parts to it, or that Parson's klog was referring specifically to attacks on the Garrison and that there are other sets of rules regarding movement by friendlies within the city).
Maybe erring on the side of simplicity creates its own confusion. Maybe we're running up against the limits of the graphic novel in terms of complexity of world creation and conveying expository information within an action story. I don't know, we're doing the best we can. There are good reasons for everything that has happened in the last few pages, whether it appears that way at this point in the story or not.Rob Balder, Erfworld author/co-creator, and creator of PartiallyClips