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2011-09-11, 10:23 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: "Wait, that didn't work right" - the Dysfunctional Rules Collection
Knowledge Devotion is pretty well designed feat. It provides relevant bonus, scales but not for free and rewards having more than one person in a party who's not a total ignoramus.
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2011-09-11, 10:24 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: "Wait, that didn't work right" - the Dysfunctional Rules Collection
Well, you'll have to forgive us then, since what you've said so far has amounted to demanding that Knowledge Devotion work like the Truenamer.
The class which is generally agreed to be completely broken in the unplayable sense and the only handbook for which advises people to never, ever play the class because it was so poorly designed.
So, you'll find that a good portion of the community disagrees with your assertion that such would be good design.
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2011-09-11, 10:24 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: "Wait, that didn't work right" - the Dysfunctional Rules Collection
A dread necromancer is the scariest creature alive. You fail one save against his fear aura, and even if you kill him, a whole ten years later, you're still shaken from that one look. (RAW, a dread necromancer's fear aura has no duration so it never ends)
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2011-09-11, 10:27 PM (ISO 8601)
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2011-09-11, 10:31 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: "Wait, that didn't work right" - the Dysfunctional Rules Collection
Since people mentioned Swordsage AC (even though that isn't dysfunctional):
I mentioned Armored Uncanny Dodge: What is the Eternal Blade even trying to help with?
Is there some Uncanny dodge abilities that only work in light armor? Did they assume it was for for light armor for Barbarians/Rogues?
Why give an useless ability?
Supposedly, it is Uncanny Dodge but works in any armor... but they all do....Last edited by Starbuck_II; 2011-09-11 at 10:33 PM.
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2011-09-11, 10:35 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: "Wait, that didn't work right" - the Dysfunctional Rules Collection
The way it works utilizing the house rule I have already described, +5 to hit and damage comes online around level 9-10, just not for every monster that you fight. This is intentional, and by design.
Before anybody starts crying about the skill points, skills are so horrendously under powered that you could completely remove them from the game, assume that everyone has full ranks, and you'd barely even notice it. Feats, again, are under powered and spending a feat on something is as irrelevant as spending a couple skill points in the grand scheme.
He's saying that the obcurity of the more powerful monsters is countered by their more pronouced roles in myths (and presumably the character's greater knowledge skill).
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2011-09-11, 10:36 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: "Wait, that didn't work right" - the Dysfunctional Rules Collection
"It doesn't matter how much you struggle or strive,
You'll never get out of life alive,
So please kill yourself and save this land,
And your last mission is to spread my command,"
Slightly adapted quote from X-Fusion, Please Kill Yourself
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2011-09-11, 10:38 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: "Wait, that didn't work right" - the Dysfunctional Rules Collection
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Last edited by LibraryOgre; 2011-09-12 at 01:03 PM.
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2011-09-11, 10:39 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: "Wait, that didn't work right" - the Dysfunctional Rules Collection
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2011-09-11, 10:39 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: "Wait, that didn't work right" - the Dysfunctional Rules Collection
Last edited by averagejoe; 2011-09-15 at 12:32 AM.
My Unitarian Jihad Name is: Brother Spikey Mace of Looking at All Sides of the QuestionAnyone who can tell me what my avatar is gets a cookie.
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2011-09-11, 10:40 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: "Wait, that didn't work right" - the Dysfunctional Rules Collection
Then what's it matter if it's a weak, underpowered feat even when you can reliably hit +5 to hit and damage? Or are you saying that you really, really like the 7 odd feats anyone ever gets in their career to be even weaker than the designers intended with their albatross fighter?
Except when they are things that directly tie into remembering that one story about how Wossname exploited the weakness that medusas have to getting their middle fingers whacked. Funny, that.
Then speak more clearly so you actually get your point across rather than saying things that are going to be interpreted as something other than your meaning.
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2011-09-11, 10:40 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: "Wait, that didn't work right" - the Dysfunctional Rules Collection
"It doesn't matter how much you struggle or strive,
You'll never get out of life alive,
So please kill yourself and save this land,
And your last mission is to spread my command,"
Slightly adapted quote from X-Fusion, Please Kill Yourself
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2011-09-11, 10:50 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: "Wait, that didn't work right" - the Dysfunctional Rules Collection
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2011-09-11, 10:52 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: "Wait, that didn't work right" - the Dysfunctional Rules Collection
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"It doesn't matter how much you struggle or strive,
You'll never get out of life alive,
So please kill yourself and save this land,
And your last mission is to spread my command,"
Slightly adapted quote from X-Fusion, Please Kill Yourself
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2011-09-11, 10:53 PM (ISO 8601)
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2011-09-11, 11:02 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: "Wait, that didn't work right" - the Dysfunctional Rules Collection
I think his problem with Knowledge Devotion is that it's DC doesn't scale depending on the creature being fought, so once you can make the check for +5, it doesn't matter whether you fight a squirrel or Jabberwocky.
[Edit]: Jabberwocky would probably be magical beast or something like that. Imagine it's an animal for the above example.Last edited by Greenish; 2011-09-11 at 11:03 PM.
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2011-09-11, 11:12 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: "Wait, that didn't work right" - the Dysfunctional Rules Collection
"It doesn't matter how much you struggle or strive,
You'll never get out of life alive,
So please kill yourself and save this land,
And your last mission is to spread my command,"
Slightly adapted quote from X-Fusion, Please Kill Yourself
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2011-09-11, 11:14 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: "Wait, that didn't work right" - the Dysfunctional Rules Collection
[Edit]: Jabberwocky would probably be magical beast or something like that. Imagine it's an animal for the above example.
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2011-09-11, 11:16 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: "Wait, that didn't work right" - the Dysfunctional Rules Collection
A search for disintegrate in this thread yields nothing, which means it hasn't been mentioned that said spell doesn't work on trees.
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2011-09-11, 11:18 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: "Wait, that didn't work right" - the Dysfunctional Rules Collection
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2011-09-11, 11:18 PM (ISO 8601)
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2011-09-11, 11:22 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: "Wait, that didn't work right" - the Dysfunctional Rules Collection
Well, thanks to the Knowledge Devotion argument, my last comment was completely ignored and lost in all the ranting, so I'll try again...
I'm not sure this is one hundred percent accurate, but it's interesting to me, if a dragonborn gnome takes gnome paragon, they can get additional daily uses of spell-like abilities they no longer possess...(Away from Book, can't check on Gnome Paragon's exact wording)
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2011-09-11, 11:23 PM (ISO 8601)
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2011-09-11, 11:27 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: "Wait, that didn't work right" - the Dysfunctional Rules Collection
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2011-09-11, 11:28 PM (ISO 8601)
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2011-09-11, 11:31 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: "Wait, that didn't work right" - the Dysfunctional Rules Collection
If I remember this right, the claim goes that Disintegrate works on two things: Creatures and specifically *nonliving* objects. It does damage to creatures, and it just rips a chunk out of nonliving objects. Trees are not creatures, but they are also not nonliving. Disintegrate just doesn't address them at all.
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2011-09-11, 11:31 PM (ISO 8601)
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2011-09-11, 11:33 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: "Wait, that didn't work right" - the Dysfunctional Rules Collection
Not quite.
Originally Posted by SRD
Edit: Bah! Cursed Swordsages! Foiled again! At least I provided a reference, though . . .Last edited by Zaq; 2011-09-11 at 11:34 PM.
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2011-09-11, 11:43 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: "Wait, that didn't work right" - the Dysfunctional Rules Collection
Gnome Paragon doesn't seem to grant extra uses. There's some substitution levels that do though, I think.
And I believe a feat that gives anyone with innate SLAs more uses of them per day. Can't remember its name though. Magic in the Blood, maybe? Google seems to say it is and is from Player's Guide to Faerun.
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2011-09-11, 11:48 PM (ISO 8601)
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