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Thread: Erfworld, The Thread.
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2011-11-18, 06:18 AM (ISO 8601)
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This is Wanda's story. Odds are Delphie wont *like* how she wins.... :P
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2011-11-18, 07:06 AM (ISO 8601)
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Indeed. I hope Delphie likes key lime pie.
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2011-11-18, 12:52 PM (ISO 8601)
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I don't know. My suspicion is that Delphie fully foresees her own death. Look at her signamancy -- she's dying inside already. I wouldn't be surprised if it's the other way around, with Wanda seeming to win in the short term, but Delphie winning in the end by changing Wanda's outlook on the world.
All I know is that the Wanda we see here thinks that Fate is ridiculous and believes she can defy it: "Her lover was cowed, her superiors were deferential, and she had tried to put Wanda in the same position with this nonsense about “Fate” and “a role to play.”"
She doesn't think like that in the main story.
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2011-11-18, 02:11 PM (ISO 8601)
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Hmm. At one point Jack muses that Wanda's mind had been badly broken and put back together poorly. We assumed this happened in Book 1 when Jillian broke the spell on her. But what if Wanda's mind got smashed earlier than that?
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2011-11-18, 04:52 PM (ISO 8601)
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2011-11-19, 08:08 AM (ISO 8601)
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And we have art to go along with the latest page. Poor Wanda. She is just trying to understand things and be loyal to her family/side. And people are just &*%%# with her mind.
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2011-11-19, 10:15 AM (ISO 8601)
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hmmmm....
Originally Posted by Delphie
Originally Posted by Wanda, undisclosed number of turns laterLast edited by Landis963; 2011-11-19 at 10:15 AM.
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2011-11-19, 12:48 PM (ISO 8601)
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2011-11-19, 03:00 PM (ISO 8601)
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Any UK erf fans out there? I've started a thread on the official forums to discuss potential meetups, bulk order of merch, and/or getting Rob to come over here.
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2011-11-22, 03:51 PM (ISO 8601)
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2011-11-22, 04:00 PM (ISO 8601)
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I really enjoy these text updates. Maybe because Wanda was always my favorite character.
The only thing I miss is a picture of Funnyface the sawhorse. With Wanda on it, of course. Wanda the croakamancer of Doom, riding her trusty steed, Funnyface.Bad to the Bone!
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2011-11-22, 06:29 PM (ISO 8601)
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I feel so happy for Wanda... and yet, i am saddened by the fact that this will all end very very tragically. I hate delphie so much, but what's even more infuriating is knowing the manipulative, overbearing caster is right.
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2011-11-22, 06:56 PM (ISO 8601)
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Overlord Firebaugh or Wanda could not possibly know that this will end badly. Haffaton's deal is total BS. Goodminton has taken three cities and won every battle. Why should they fear Haffaton? Goodminton is advancing, Haffaton is on the retreat. They are in no position to make demands. Even if they where, you don't give your best military asset to the enemy.
Sure, a strait up peace treaty would be fine. Or trade Delphie instead!Bad to the Bone!
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2011-11-22, 07:05 PM (ISO 8601)
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What? Am I the only Delphie fan?
I think deep down, Overlord Firebaugh looked at the facts and knows his side is doomed. He is just going to try and fight Fate because he has nothing else to lose. And that's why I likes him.Gitp's No. 1 Cake hater
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2011-11-22, 08:46 PM (ISO 8601)
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I like the text updates because I can keep track of what's going on.
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2011-11-22, 10:09 PM (ISO 8601)
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2011-11-23, 12:59 AM (ISO 8601)
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2011-11-23, 02:09 AM (ISO 8601)
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Actually it could depend on what Goodmitten might be able to do with that offer and the details of the local situation. Afterall its an alliance not just a peace treaty or a ceasefire. In theory its possible that Goodmitten could have used Haffaton might to help it win cities from other sides, possibly even going against goodmitten's former allies. If Goodmitten could add more cities it would be enough for them to rebuild their forces to fight back should haffaton decide to restart the war after 50 turns.
This possibility is something you have to weight against two former allies breaking alliance and joining the enemy... That combined with Haffaton making a renewed offensive goodmitten may be gone within 10 turns. Frankly the 50 turn alliance may offer more possibilities that increase their chance of survival
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2011-11-23, 02:55 AM (ISO 8601)
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Clearly you are some sort of Sybil and should be burned at the stake for unnatural acts of prophecy.
Yeah, I think we can be reasonably certain Delphie doesn't like what Wanda's doing right now. For what it's worth, I believe Delphie is probably telling the truth when she says that passing Wanda over to Haffaton was the only way to save Goodminton...her methods to try and avoid that (mainly trying to pull the wool over her Overlord's eyes) were the problem!
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2011-11-23, 05:53 AM (ISO 8601)
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Oh Delphie. You and your self-defeating subterfuge.
I mean really, what did she expect, resting her plan on the actions of a unit that a) didn't trust her, b) she was routinely domineering and callous towards, c) had a close familial connection with both the Chief Warlord and the Overlord, d) she neglected to share enough information with to achieve that trust, etc., etc., ad nauseum. She brought this on herself, and frankly I'm glad she did.
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2011-11-23, 09:58 AM (ISO 8601)
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What's odd in a way is that Wanda does some of the same things that Delphie is doing. But that they tend to work out the way she wants them too. Of course she also actually tries to work with other people (Parson in particular) and will even tell Stanley what she is doing if it will get the job done. Wanda can be even more manipulative than Delphie but she does it for very different reasons than Delphie.
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2011-11-23, 02:08 PM (ISO 8601)
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That's not odd, that's character development.
In her "youth" Wanda was much more idealistic and hopeful. She stood by the idea that the overlord, chief warlord, and all others important involved should have all the information and should be trusted to make the right decision. Delphie's actions in this regard opposed to all that.
However, Wanda's gonna find out the hard way that the world does not fit her ideals. She will find that Delphie was right, that there is no use fighting fate and that those who do are bound to go down a painful road. She will also find that there are often times when the people in charge don't know as well as you do and thus can be prone to making terrible decisions; as such manipulation and lies become a must for fulfilling one's dutyLast edited by slayerx; 2011-11-23 at 02:09 PM.
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2011-11-26, 05:59 PM (ISO 8601)
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"Or maybe she's a retconjurer."
"Don't even think about that!"
I loled.
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2011-11-26, 06:46 PM (ISO 8601)
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2011-11-26, 07:04 PM (ISO 8601)
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By telling her not to think about it after she already has done, he's mimicing what reconjurers are supposed to do - retroactively change events.
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2011-11-26, 07:11 PM (ISO 8601)
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Ooooh, retcon-jurers. Got it! I was reading it ret-conjurer, hence the confusion.
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2011-11-26, 08:58 PM (ISO 8601)
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I'm more interested in Wanda's denial of retconjuration's existence. Is it the magical boogeyman art of Erfworld that people honestly don't believe in, or is just a 'we don't talk about it in polite company' thing?
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2011-11-26, 09:43 PM (ISO 8601)
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Its like a theoretical element, possible for it to exist, but impossible to create, according to the Magic theory aristoleanesque grid thing - held to be something only the titans can do.
Since it replaced deletionism, rather late in the story, after the main plot has been sketched out, highly unlikely to play a key role.
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2011-11-26, 10:08 PM (ISO 8601)
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Besides, Rob has said at least once that Retconjuration is solely the domain of the Titans, and thus if it has been employed, the characters don't know about it. (in fact, it has been used at least once, to switch Bogroll's special from Regen to Crafting - just in time for his death scene)
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2011-11-26, 11:12 PM (ISO 8601)
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Retconjuration is a theoretical branch of magic with no known mortal practitioners - ever.
I like the theory about there being one retconjurer far in the future who retconned all the others out of existence.Like 4X (aka Civilization-like) gaming? Know programming? Interested in game development? Take a look.
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