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    Default WW Central VI: Important WW information goes here - READ OPENING POSTS!


    Hello all.
    This thread was designed by Lucky originally for the purposes of coordinating and maintaining all the werewolf games and variants. It has become a great tool for us. This is where you come to place a claim on running your own Werewolves or Werewolves variant game. It can also be used to develop ideas and gather interest for your own version of the game.
    Whatever you're looking for in regards to werewolf games should be found on this page.
    Maybe not in this post, but somewhere on this first page.
    Everything from start dates to active games, rules (and optional rules) to games archives can be found here along with tools designed to make your game run smoother.
    If there’s something useful you think is missing, mention it. We will immediately eventually spring lurch into action to sort it out.

    --Playing--

    --How Players Should Use This Thread--
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    • If you need to check the basic rules, they are in this post.
    • If you have a query about the general/basic rules, this is the place to ask. Questions about a specific edition/variant should be directed to the narrator.
    • If you want to know when a certain game is starting, the schedule is in the second post.
    • If someone mentions a past game which interests you, someone here may well remember it and be willing to elaborate. Or, you can check the archives.


    --Basic Game-Play Overview--
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    The game is played in turns that consist of two different phases.
    There's a day phase that happens from dawn ‘til dusk in game. This period typically lasts 48 hours. During this time all the players try to decide who the bad guys are by voting for them. Votes are done in red text. You may change your vote if you wish, in which case, you should edit your previous post and strike-through your previous vote. Once the day has ended, whoever has the most votes is removed from the game (Lynched). In the event of a tie, common practice is to lynch whichever player reached that number of votes first.

    The 25% Rule: Part of the original rules, but not all narrators use it now. By this rule, a lynch only occurs if at least 25% of the players vote for the same person. If no 25% majority is reached, the mob cannot gather sufficient numbers to lynch anyone.
    Additionally, if a 50% majority is reached, day may optionally end early at that point, if the narrators want it to.

    Auto-lynches: If a player fails to vote for a certain number of day phases (Usually 2), they will be auto-lynched. If you will be unable to get online to post in your games for some period of time, you should notify the narrator(s) in advance, either in-thread or via PM.

    The next phase is the night phase, which lasts from dusk ‘til dawn. This phase typically lasts 24 hours. During this phase, anyone that has a special action to perform during that time does so via PM to the narrator(s). This is the phase of the game where the wolves would tell the narrators who they would like to kill.

    After time's up, the narrators will post the opening of the following Day Scene and it starts all over again.
    This continues until either A) all of the Wolves are destroyed by the Villagers -or- B) the Wolves reduce the total number of non-wolf players to equal their own.

    This is just a brief overview of the basic rules. Specific games may have variant rules which will be detailed in the game thread.


    --Basic Role Descriptions--
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    Once a game has closed recruitment, the narrator will randomly assign roles and PM all players with their role. Traditional roles are as follows:

    Team Villager
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    Villager: You are a villager. Your job is to stay alive, and ferret out the werewolves.

    Mason: Your job is to ferret out the werewolves, and to protect your fellow Mason(s). There will always be a minimum of 2 Masons in a group. The masons are told each other’s identities.

    Seer: Each night phase, you may PM the Narrator and co-Narrator to look into the heart of one other player. When you select a player, the answer given to you will be villager, fool, or werewolf. Seers see the Devil as a Werewolf.

    Fool: Thinks he is a seer. Is told that he is a seer. When a fool gets his foresight in the evening, he gets a random chance as to what he sees when he points somebody out. When he points to the Seer, he will always see the Fool, and vice versa.

    Baner: This person is the carrier of the wolfsbane. Each night he may protect someone he believes is a villager, from the werewolves’ night-kill.


    Team Werewolf
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    Werewolf: Each night phase the werewolves choose among themselves who they want to kill, and send this in to the narrator(s).

    Devil: Is basically the seer for the werewolves, however gets more precise results (Specific role rather than just villager, fool, or werewolf).

    Note that other than villager and werewolf, none of these roles have to appear in any given game, and there are other roles which may be included. The narrator has the right to include whatever roles s/he wants, and alter them as s/he sees fit.

    Victory Conditions:

    For Team Villagers to win, the villagers must lynch all of the werewolves.

    For Team Werewolf to win, they must simply reduce the number of villagers (Including special roles on Team Villager) to equal their current numbers.


    Finally, if anyone has any other ideas as far as what to put in this thread, feel free to voice them here or PM them to me.
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    --The Schedule--

    {table=head]Game|Narrator(s)|Status|Game_Start (week of)
    Ravnica II: Wolfpact (for reals this time!)|Uncle Festy|Cancelled|May 24 Nope
    Mtg: The Battle for Alara|Sanity702, Uncle Festy|Finished|July 12
    **LotR - When the Cult Attacks|ozgun92|Running|July 19
    Titans 4 - Salvation|Supagoof, Diva De|Running|July 19 26
    Rebellion V|Zeb the Troll|Running|July 26
    Ghosts WW|Random_person|Dead|Aug 9
    The City|billtodamax, Murska|Running|Aug 16 Sept 5
    **Dark World Incursion|Strategos|Running|Aug 24
    Schoolyard WW|Istari|Running|Aug 30
    **Under a Grinning Moon|The Ender, TheLaughingMan|Running|Sept 1
    **Get Out of Here, Stalker!|Trixie|Finished|Sept 1
    **Witchhunt|Milskidasith|Finished|Sept 3
    **Classic Mafia: Bring out the noir!|InaVegt|Running|Sept 3
    The Gamers WW|ThePhantom|Finished|Sept 6
    **Custom WW II|Lex-kat|Running|Sept 7
    WW Classic XII|Thufir, InaVegt|Running|Sept 13
    City of Darkness|Eternal Drifter|Running|Sept 13
    Futurama|Diva De, Lex-kat|Recruiting|Sept 20
    Gehenna|Lady Tialait|Coming|Sept 27
    itP - The Battle for Alarra|Lex-kat|Coming|Oct 4
    ????|Thufir|Coming|Oct 11
    ????|Tasroth, Thufir|Coming|Oct 18
    Vampire IV|Helgraf|Coming|Oct 25
    Camelot WW 3|lostlittlebear|Coming|Nov 1
    Demons II|Lamech|Coming|Nov 8
    Kingdom Hearts II|Supagoof, Skippy|Coming|Nov 15
    X-Men|cd4|Coming|Nov 22
    Universal Smash Bros. 5|Deathslayer7|Coming|Nov 29
    Exalted: The Wyld Hunt|InaVegt|Coming|Dec 6
    ????|Sanity702|Coming|Dec 13
    The Game of Thrones WW|Heroic|Coming|Dec 20[/table]** Games of 20 players or less. These are put in the table for recordkeeping, but don't require scheduling a slot.

    Completed games:
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    {table=head]Game|Narrator(s)|Status|Game_Start
    Fate III|Trixie|Finished|Dec 21
    Hunting of the Snark|Thufir|Finished|Dec 28
    Kingdom Hearts|Skippy & Supagoof|Finished|Jan 4
    Convoy 4|Lex-Kat and Atreyu|Finished|Jan 10
    Zombie|Fawkes|Finished|Jan 18
    Vampire III: Sunnydale Nights|Helgraf, Shadow|Finished|Nov 1
    SEU VII|Shadowcaller, Wolfbane|Finished|Feb 1
    WW Classic X|Zar Peter, rakkoon, Mustiado|Finished|Feb 8
    **The Thing|gardenphilosoph|Finished|Feb 12
    Spytrap V|Mordokai|Finished|Feb 15
    **Reverse WW|Sanity702|Finished|Feb 24
    Camelot WW 0.5: Le Mort d'Arthur|lostlittlebear|Finished|Mar 1
    **Hot Potatoes|Jontom Xire|Finished|Mar 24
    Playground Squares: The WW edition!|Reinholdt, Atreyu, Lex-kat, Supagoof|Finished|Mar 22
    **Hot Potato II|Jontom Xire, hap_hazard|Finished|Apr 6
    **Blut und Boden|gardenphilosoph|Dead|Feb 28
    Reboot|Hyozo|Dead|Mar 8
    Abhorsen's WW|Deathslayer7, sanity702|Finished|Mar 29
    Llama Llama Duck 3|Supagoof, Happyturtle|Finished|Apr 5 1st!
    **Reverse WW 2|Sanity702|Finished|Apr 15
    Monster Mash III|Andre Fairchilde|Finished|Apr 19 May 9
    Magic the Gathering|Uncle Festy|Finished|Feb 22
    Camelot WW 1: The Sword in the Stone|lostlittlebear, Lex-kat|Finished|May 10
    Harry Potter: The Battle Against Voldemort|The Cyberwolf|Finished|May 17
    Werewolf Classic XI: Origins|DungeonMaster77, Irbis|Finished|Apr 19
    Pirates V: Setting Sail!|Atreyu, Alarra, Indurain|Finished|Apr 26
    **Custom WW|Shadowcaller|Dead|Apr 3
    **Nehh's Craziness WW|Nehh|Dead|May 17
    Percy Jackson|BishFish, Lex-kat|Finished|May 31
    Mad Science! WW|Thufir|Finished|June 7
    Bounty Hunters 2: Trial by Gunfire|RedScholarGypsy|Finished|June 14
    Abhorsen II|Deathslayer7, Sanity702|Finished|June 28
    **Incarcerated|The Cyberwolf|Finished|July 11
    **Tiny WW|Skippy|Finished|July 29
    Cults|Random_person|Dead|May 3
    **Alien Invasion III|Castaras, Lex-kat|Finished|July 27
    **Reverse WW III: The Unstoppable Villager|Sanity702|Finished|June 28
    Convoy II: The Cola Wars|Lex-kat, Atreyu|Finished|June 21
    Camelot WW 2 - The Queen of Air and Darkness|lostlittlebear|Finished|July 5
    **Ballad of the 503rd: Star Wars WW|TheLaughingMan, RabbitHoleLost|Finished|Aug 4[/table]
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    --Narrating--

    --How Narrators Should Use This Thread--
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    In addition to the ways players should use Central, narrators can:
    • Post the rules of games you’re planning, for balance advice, and potentially to garner interest in advance.
    • Look for a co-narrator.
    • Book a place for your game in the schedule.
    • Let us know when your game is recruiting/starting/ending.
    • Share fun stuff you've created, such as Korith's games spreadsheet.


    --Interesting and Important Notes by Lucky--
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    A couple other things to note when running a game of Werewolves:

    A) Having a co-narrator is highly recommended. This is to assist with the flow of the game, and just makes it easier on the narrator.

    Rules on cheating:

    The SMBG stance on cheating applies to all of these games, and cheaters will be punished as dictated by the SMBG rules.

    However, after the culprit has been punished and s/he has served his time off from the werewolf games, it will become forgotten history. No one is to speak of it further, and any concern will be PMed to the narrators of that game, not posted in the thread.


    --Scheduling your game--
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    We've all decided amongst ourselves that we should only have one game starting in any given week. Exceptions are made for small games (<20 players) and well-known games which have no problems attracting players whenever (Though we still try to keep those spaced out).

    Please PM me or post here if you're planning on starting a game, so that we can coordinate everything properly.
    This will ensure that every game gets the attention that it deserves and will make every game more enjoyable.
    Thanks in advance.


    Just as the Three Post Rule is usually enforced by ourselves rather than getting Mods involved, so too should rules that we've created for ourselves be so enforced. Please politely direct anyone starting a game out of turn to this thread.
    As this is not a forum rule, this can only be enforced by us.
    A little common courtesy goes a long way.

    A note on posting Recruitment/Game Threads:
    Threads created in the Structured Games subforum have to wait to be approved by a mod (Alarra)
    If you need a second post to open your game, simply put that in the Title of your thread so that your players will not post as soon as it goes up, like I did for this thread.
    Then change the Title when you're ready to play.

    Recruitment and Game Schedules
    Note that the date listed is for the Game Thread to go up,
    not the recruitment thread.
    Begin recruitment at your leisure.


    --Co-narrators--
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    Advice from Atreyu the Masked Llama:
    The co-narrator serves many purposes
    1) It can help with sending out the opening PM's to players.
    2) it can give the narrator someone to talk to about the game and how its going
    3) It is someone the narrator can plot with about any changes to make (but that's not relevant in classic)
    4) if the narrator cannot fulfil his duties for any reason, the co-narrator can cover his back and make an update or two.
    5) OOOOH, writing descriptions is good too.

    If you want a co-narrator, ask here in Central. It will probably help to say what your game will be like, though some people will narrate anything.


    Claims on Specific Editions/Variants:
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    In general, a WW variant someone runs is considered specifically theirs. If you want to run another one of it, you must ask them nicely to let you co-narrate.
    However, there is nothing to stop you doing something similar, which you can devise for yourself. If you’re uncertain, ask here in Central.
    The exceptions to this variant ownership are WW Classic and Simply Werewolf, which get passed around. If you want to run one of these games, just ask and we’ll dig out the rules for you.
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    --Games Archives--
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    --Single Run Games--

    Someone mention a game that you've never heard of?
    Someone mention a game that you'd like to read?

    Look No Further!
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    --Extra Stuff--

    --Optional Rules--
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    Recruitment
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    In some games, rather than, or in addition to, killing the villagers, the wolves may instead recruit them. The targeted villager becomes a werewolf instead. Power roles are typically immune to recruitment, and recruitment may be refusable, at the choice of the narrator

    Scrying
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    It can of course be played that the Seer and Fool get specific roles in response to their scries, rather than just team allegiance or Fool.

    Optional Predetermined "Fool's Scry" Roles
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    You may wish to randomly generate a second role distribution to be used for Fool scries, rather than randomly generating the result of each scry. This will ensure the Fool’s scries are consistent (Can’t scry the same person as different roles on separate occasions) and save you work.
    Of course, if you give the Fool specific role results, you’ll have to decide what result they get if the role the Fool should scry is already dead. Obvious solution is to change said result to a basic Villager or Werewolf.

    The Devil
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    It can be played that the Devil and the Werewolves do not start the game knowing each other (This is the case in WW Classic). This can potentially make things rather interesting, as it’s harder for everyone to know who to trust...

    Helgraf's Scry Interference Rule
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    Under Helgraf’s Scry Interference Rule, any attempt by multiple scryers (Seer, Fool, Devil, etc.) to scry the same target on the same night will result in ‘interference’, i.e. no result.


    --Additional Roles--
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    Here are some more roles which you may see/use in a game of WW:
    Team Villager:
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    Day-baner: Each night, this player may choose someone to protect. The following day, that person cannot be lynched.

    Not Team Specific:
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    Disguiser: Each night, this player may choose a target and a role. If someone scries that target, they will see the chosen role rather than the target’s actual role (What this does to Fool scries is up to the narrator).

    Voider: Each night, this player may choose a target. That target will be unable to use their own night action (If they have one)

    Transmuter: Each night, this player chooses a target. The narrators randomly select one of the abilities usable in the game and use it on the target.

    Team Werewolf
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    Beast: When this player is lynched, one of the people who voted for him will also die. This may be chosen by the player, randomly selected, or the last person to vote for the beast.

    Alpha: Alpha can have three possible meanings – either the Alpha scries as a villager, or they get to choose their own team, or both. This should be specified in the rules of any game where the role is used.


    --Narrating Tools--
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    Zeb's explanation of how to use the BCC system:
    When you go to send a message, underneath the box where you type in the recipients is a link that says BCC. Click it and add your five people there. Like you said, it cuts down greatly on sending out the Villager PM's because you can send to groups of 5 anonymously instead of each individually.

    PM Box filling up too fast?
    Check out the Offline PM Viewer!

    Korith's Excel Spreadsheet. - A great tool to assign all the basic roles. Also includes an option to add up to 10 custom roles, making it also useful for almost any other werewolf variant.
    Instructions are included inside.
    This appears to be gone. Ask here and someone may be able to email it to you.

    The only concern that we've found with Korith's wonderful tool is that in some circumstances you may need to use it twice with slightly different configurations each time in order to get a fully randomized role distribution.
    This will come into play when you're running an Alpha Game or when you have possible secondary roles that could be in addition to the player's primary role (such as lovers, feuders, etc.).


    Also for inspiration and other possible purposes, the Mafia Wikipedia Article

    Attention All Werewolves:
    If there's anything you'd like added to this thread, just let me know.
    If there's a game you'd like to run, just let me know.
    If you'd like to put a bid in for a start date, just....

    ....You get the idea.

    Questions? Comments? Concerns? Feedback?
    Let's have it!

    Now post away!
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    --For Teh Lulz--

    --Player Inspired Posters--


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    ((I'm missing lots! Post them, and I'll add them in!))


    --Other Werewolf Posters and Images--

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    --Songs and Poems--

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    From Memesville:
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    The Lolrus and Anonymous
    took all the memes aside.
    "O Memes, do come and walk with us
    And I will be your guide
    I haz a shiny bukkit
    In which some of you can ride."

    The little memes all hurried up,
    Quite eager for the treat:
    Their coats were brushed, their faces washed,
    Their shoes were clean and neat--
    And this was odd, because, you know,
    They hadn't any feet.

    The Lolrus and Anonymous
    Walked on a mile or so,
    And then they rested on a rock
    Conveniently low:
    Where all the little memes were standing
    Waiting in a row.

    "The time has come," the Lolrus said,
    "To talk of many things:
    Of pirates--ninjas--bukkit thiefs--
    Of internets--and memes--
    And why did raiser b1ade confess--
    And why Rick Astley sings."

    "But wait a bit," the memes all cried,
    "Before we have our chat;
    For some of us are out of breath,
    And all of us are fat!"
    "No hurry!" said Anonymous.
    They thanked him much for that.

    "A loaf of bread," the Lolrus said,
    "Is what we chiefly need:
    Pepper and vinegar besides
    Are very good indeed--
    Now if you're ready, dearest memes,
    We can begin to feed."

    "But not on us!" the memes all cried,
    Turning a little blue.
    "After such kindness, that would be
    A dismal thing to do!"
    "The night is fine," the Lolrus said.
    "Do you admire the view?

    "It was so kind of you to come!
    And you are very nice!"
    Anonymous said nothing but
    "Cut us another slice:
    I wish you were not quite so deaf--
    I've had to ask you twice!"

    "It seems a shame," the Lolrus said,
    "To play them such a trick,
    After we've brought them out so far,
    And made them trot so quick!"
    Anonymous said nothing but
    "The butter's spread too thick!"

    "I weep for you," the Lolrus said:
    "I deeply sympathize."
    With sobs and tears he sorted out
    Those of the largest size,
    Holding his pocket-handkerchief
    Before his streaming eyes.

    "My dear memes," said Anonymous,
    "You've had a pleasant run!
    Shall we be trotting home again?'
    But answer came there none--
    And this was scarcely odd, because
    They'd eaten every one.

    -by Happyturtle


    From Tales of Kyou II:
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    If I played werewolf long enough in Kyou
    I'd find a way to believe that it's all true
    I'm not saying that you lied
    straight-faced while Llama died
    Still I look to find a reason to believe

    Someone like you makes it hard to lynch
    Somebody else
    Someone like you is easy to lynch
    You should point at yourself

    If I gave you time to change my vote
    I'd have to actually read the stuff you wrote
    I know I just picked
    your name off the list...
    Still I look to find a reason to believe

    If I played werewolf long enough in Kyou
    I'd find a way to believe that it's all true
    I'm not saying that you lied straight-faced while Llama died
    Still I look to find a reason to believe

    Someone like you makes it hard to lynch
    Somebody else
    Someone like you is easy to lynch
    You should point at yourself

    -by Happyturtle


    The Murska Constant:
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    [music= Hungy Like the Wolf by Duran Duran]
    (Ha ha)
    Dark in the village, night full of desire
    Steam in the kitchen, go put out the fire
    Do-do do do, do do do, do do do, do do do, do do
    Wolfy you want me, I hope I’m baned
    And catch my edits while we’re going insane
    Do-do do do, do do do, do do do, do do do, do do
    In touch underground
    I'm on the hunt I'm coming after you
    Who made that sound, I'm lost in a crowd
    And I know Murska is a wolf
    Straddle the line, parody and rhyme
    I'm on the hunt I'm after you
    Mind is alive with juices like wine
    And I know Murska is a wolf


    Stalked in the forest, too close to hide
    I'll be upon you by the moonlight side
    Do-do do do, do do do, do do do, do do do, do do
    Better start running, you know that I’m right
    Leading the mob by pitchfork and torchlight,
    Do-do do do, do do do, do do do, do do do, do do
    In touch under ground
    I'm on the hunt I'm after you
    Don’t come around, it’s you that I found
    And I know Murska is a wolf
    Strut on a line, parody and rhyme
    I bring the village after you
    Mind is alive all running inside
    And I know Murska is a wolf
    -
    (Murska is a wolf
    Murska is a wolf
    Murska is a wolf)

    Burning the ground I break from the crowd
    I'm on the hunt I'm after you
    Don’t come around, it’s you that I found
    And I know Murska is a wolf
    Strut on a line, parody and rhyme
    I'm on the hunt I'm after you
    Mind is alive with juices like wine
    And I know Murska is a wolf

    Burning the ground I break from the crowd
    I'm on the hunt I'm after you
    Don’t come around, it’s you that I found
    Strut on a line, parody and rhyme
    I'm on the hunt I'm after you
    Mind is alive with juices like wine
    And I know Murska is a wolf

    [/music]

    -by Supagoof


    From Jack the Ripper:
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    [music = American Pie by Don McLean]
    A long long time ago
    I can still remember
    How that wolf games used to make me smile
    And I knew when I joined in like Fin
    That I could help the villagers win
    And maybe they'd not lynch me for a while
    But Day three made me shiver
    With every point that I'd deliver
    Bad news in the game thread
    I found out that I was dead
    I can't remember if I lied
    When asked about my team's side
    But something touched me deep inside
    The day the Goof has died
    So...

    Bye, bye to a villager guy,
    Made a posting, now a ghosting from up in the sky
    Them good ole wolves were laughing deeply inside
    Singing this'll be the day that I die
    This'll be the day that I die

    Did you write the rules of this game
    And do you point at people for their fame,
    If the wagon tells you so?
    Now do you believe in reading it all?
    Can the Goof's words save your mortal soul?
    And can you explain why your point at Cristo?
    Well, I know that Mordy's in love with him
    'cause I saw them prancing with the nymph
    They both kicked off your shoes
    Said Goof, parody the rhythm and blues
    I was a old school rhyming rappin' buck
    With a game being played with Llama's and Duck's
    But I knew I was out of luck
    The day the music died
    I started singing

    Bye, bye to a villager guy,
    Made a posting, now a ghosting from up in the sky
    Them good ole wolves were laughing deeply inside
    Singing this'll be the day that I die
    This'll be the day that I die

    Now, for two years we've played on our own
    And the forum has slowed down to the bone
    But that's not how it used to be
    When the Goof sang parodies of Atreyu and Faerwain
    In a coat he borrowed from Indurain
    And a voice that came from you and me
    Oh and while Llama was looking down
    The Goof guarded his thorny crown
    The courtroom was adjourned
    No verdict was returned
    And though Murska got pointed at by Jontom Xire
    They both knew what was their desire
    And winning was all that they aspired
    The day the music died
    We were singing

    Bye, bye to a villager guy,
    Made a posting, now a ghosting from up in the sky
    Them good ole wolves were laughing deeply inside
    Singing this'll be the day that I die
    This'll be the day that I die

    Holy moly with a roly poly,
    They slipped one past the narrating goalie,
    Speaking of how the game was going fast
    Perhaps they were smoking grass
    The wolves tried for a forward pass
    With the Goof was on the sidelines in a cast
    Now the half-time air was sweet as most
    While Dirk Kris updated the daily post
    We all got up to dance
    Oh, but we never got the chance
    'Cause the wolves tried to take the field
    The villagers refused to yield
    Do you recall what was revealed
    The day the music died?
    We started singing

    Bye, bye to a villager guy,
    Made a posting, now a ghosting from up in the sky
    Them good ole wolves were laughing deeply inside
    Singing this'll be the day that I die
    This'll be the day that I die

    Oh, and there we were all in one place
    A gaming group who was lost in space
    With no time left to start again
    So watch out Jack be nimble, Jack be quick
    Jack Ripper killed them hookers slick
    Scrying is the devil's only friend
    And I watched him dance about the stage
    My hands were clenched in fists of rage
    No I shouldn't be so cruel
    I won't break the games rules
    And as the wolves silently killed on in the night
    To light the sacrificial rite
    I saw Jack laughing with delight
    The day the music died
    He was singing

    Bye, bye to a villager guy,
    Made a posting, now a ghosting from up in the sky
    Them good ole wolves were laughing deeply inside
    Singing this'll be the day that I die
    This'll be the day that I die

    I sat by, and I sang the blues
    And I watched for updates with the news
    But soon I smiled and turned away
    I went werewolf central,
    Where I'd made music years before
    But Shadow there said the music wouldn't play
    And in the streets the children screamed
    The losers cried, and the wolves dreamed
    But not a word was posted
    The good guys all were ghosted
    And the three people I admire most
    Alarra, Indy, and Zeb the Troll,
    They caught the last game with a role
    The day the music died
    And they were singing

    Bye, bye to a villager guy,
    Made a posting, now a ghosting from up in the sky
    Them good ole wolves were laughing deeply inside
    Singing this'll be the day that I die
    This'll be the day that I die

    Sooo bye, bye to a villager guy,
    Made a posting, now a ghosting from up in the sky
    Them good ole wolves were laughing deeply inside
    Singing this'll be
    the day
    that
    I
    die
    ...[/music]

    -by Supagoof


    Well, you can tell by the way I still walk,
    I'm a baner's man, now let's all talk.
    Music loud and blood's still warm.
    I've been killing wolves since I was born.
    And now I'm all right, I'm O.K.
    But I won't look the other way.
    We can try to understand
    The voting records effect on man.
    Whether you're the Devil
    Or whether you're the Alpha,
    I'm stayin' alive, stayin' alive.
    Feel the wolves breakin'
    And ev'rybody shakin'
    And I'm stayin' alive, stayin' alive.
    Ah, ha, ha, ha,
    Stayin' alive.
    Stayin' alive.
    Ah, ha, ha, ha,
    Stayin' alive.

    -by RedScholarGypsy


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    Who does he think he is? That narrator has tangled with the wrong man. No one forgets to PM Murska!

    Heh heh. Darn right.

    Forgotten? Rejected? Publically Humiliated! Why it's more then I can bear.

    More beer?

    What for? Nothing helps. I'm disgraced.

    What you? Never! Murska, you got to try to get back into the games one way or another.

    Gosh it disturbs me to see you Murska,
    Arguing about all your tactics.
    Every guy here'd love to be you Murska,
    Because we all think your fantastic.
    There's no man in the game as feared as you.
    You're everyone's favorite player.
    Everyone's in awe and terrified by you,
    And I'm not just another nay sayar...

    Noooo...

    Ooonnne's...

    Slick as Murska
    No one's quick as Murska
    No one's eye as incredibly green as Murska,
    For there's no man in town worth all the babble,
    Perfect a pure paragon
    You may be compared to likeness of Shadow,
    But I'll tell you whose team we'd prefer to be on

    No one's been like Murska
    A king pin like Murska
    No one's got us all to give in like Murska
    As a specimen, yes, I'm intimidating
    My- what an eye, that Murska

    Give five "hurrahs!"
    Give twelve "hip-hips!"
    Murska is the best
    And the rest is all drips

    No one fights like Murska
    Says he right like Murska
    In a heated debate nobody writes like Murska
    For there's no one as seeing and knowing
    As you see I've got receptors to spare
    Not a bit of him's blinding or slowing
    (That's right!)
    And ev'ry last inch of me's free of all hair

    No one hits like Murska
    Matches wits like Murska
    In a spitting match nobody spits like Murska
    I'm espcially good at expectorating
    (Ptooey!)

    Ten points for Murska!

    When I was a pixie I played four dozen games
    Ev'ry morning to help me get fame
    And now that I'm grown I play five dozen games
    So I'm roughly distrusted by NAAAME!


    No one shoots like Murska
    Makes disputess like Murska
    Then goes tromping around with refutes like Murska
    I use trophies in all of my decorating
    Say it again
    Who's an Eye among men?
    And then say it once more
    Who's the hero next door?
    Who's a super success?
    Don't you know? Can't you guess?
    Ask his fans and his five hangers-on
    There's just one eye in town who's got all of it down
    And his name's M-U-R- S -
    M-U-R-S - K -
    M-U-R-S-K - ah!

    MURSKA!!!

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    At first I was afraid
    I was petrified
    Kept thinking I could never live with wolves on all my sides
    But then I spent so many nights thinking how I voted wrong
    And I grew strong and I learned how to play along
    And so we're back
    In cyberspace
    I just logged in to find you here with that wolfy grin upon your face
    I should have changed that stupid vote
    I should have made you the lynchee
    If I'd known for just one second you'd be back to 'wagon me
    Com'on let's go
    Use your red text
    It's turned around now
    Cause you're the one who's dying next

    Weren't you the one who tried to kill me with a false scry
    You think I'd crumble
    You think I'd lay down and die

    Oh no not I
    I will survive
    Oh as long as I know how to type I know I'll stay alive
    I've got all my roles to live
    I've got all my votes to give
    I'll survive
    I will survive
    Hey, hey!


    -by RedScholarGypsy


    (PM me or post these! Supagoof's brilliance must be archived!)

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    Murska Constant: Murska is always a wolf. ALWAYS.

    The Rule of Shadow: If Shadow has not been night-killed by day three, he is a wolf. Lynch him.

    What Hyozo has learned playing Werewolf:
    • -Murska is always a wolf.
    • -Murska is frequently not a wolf.
    • -All wolves point randomly.
    • -All wolves are bandwagoners.
    • -Only wolves like to keep a low profile by frequently missing days
    • -Only villagers get autolynched.
    • -Shadow usually isn't a wolf, I still shouldn't ever trust him.
    • -Using petty revenge to determine early votes is meaningless and likely to get me lynched.
    • -Using petty revenge to determine early votes is better than nothing and therefore a good idea.
    • -People who claim to be a villager never really are villagers.
    • -Sometimes people who claim to be a villager really are villagers.
    • -Wolves don't point at each other on days where it makes a difference.
    • -Wolves like to point at each other to make it look like they're not on the same side. Since changing points would make them look extremely suspicious, this means that wolves frequently start bandwagons against each other.
    • -When a wolf is likely to be lynched, other wolves join the bandwagon to throw suspicion off themselves.
    • -Wolves covet easily defended positions, the easiest of these for them to gain is "I was the vote that pushed that wolf bandwagon into the lead, clearly no wolf would do that."
    • -Whenever I have a theory which I believe to be worth telling people, it is probably wrong.
    • -Whenever I have a theory which I do not believe to be worth telling people, it is probably right, and I will probably die before I change my mind.
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    I'd like to nominate this post to be added to the WW-inspired songs. From the KH WW game, page 5:

    Quote Originally Posted by Supagoof View Post
    ((While this arguement of gameply theories has been quite facinating, the end result is the same.

    And no, I don't take offense to public exclamation that I may have made a mistake. I just make sure that I don't do anything that will a be mistake, like to vouch for the person, such as confirm in thread of the role I sent Murska.

    And since today started with a musical number, let's finish it with one.))

    Who does he think he is? That narrator has tangled with the wrong man. No one forgets to PM Murska!

    Heh heh. Darn right.

    Forgotten? Rejected? Publically Humiliated! Why it's more then I can bear.

    More beer?

    What for? Nothing helps. I'm disgraced.

    What you? Never! Murska, you got to try to get back into the games one way or another.

    Gosh it disturbs me to see you Murska,
    Arguing about all your tactics.
    Every guy here'd love to be you Murska,
    Because we all think your fantastic.
    There's no man in the game as feared as you.
    You're everyone's favorite player.
    Everyone's in awe and terrified by you,
    And I'm not just another nay sayar...

    Noooo...

    Ooonnne's...

    Slick as Murska
    No one's quick as Murska
    No one's eye as incredibly green as Murska,
    For there's no man in town worth all the babble,
    Perfect a pure paragon
    You may be compared to likeness of Shadow,
    But I'll tell you whose team we'd prefer to be on

    No one's been like Murska
    A king pin like Murska
    No one's got us all to give in like Murska
    As a specimen, yes, I'm intimidating
    My- what an eye, that Murska

    Give five "hurrahs!"
    Give twelve "hip-hips!"
    Murska is the best
    And the rest is all drips

    No one fights like Murska
    Says he right like Murska
    In a heated debate nobody writes like Murska
    For there's no one as seeing and knowing
    As you see I've got receptors to spare
    Not a bit of him's blinding or slowing
    (That's right!)
    And ev'ry last inch of me's free of all hair

    No one hits like Murska
    Matches wits like Murska
    In a spitting match nobody spits like Murska
    I'm espcially good at expectorating
    (Ptooey!)

    Ten points for Murska!

    When I was a pixie I played four dozen games
    Ev'ry morning to help me get fame
    And now that I'm grown I play five dozen games
    So I'm roughly distrusted by NAAAME!


    No one shoots like Murska
    Makes disputess like Murska
    Then goes tromping around with refutes like Murska
    I use trophies in all of my decorating
    Say it again
    Who's an Eye among men?
    And then say it once more
    Who's the hero next door?
    Who's a super success?
    Don't you know? Can't you guess?
    Ask his fans and his five hangers-on
    There's just one eye in town who's got all of it down
    And his name's M-U-R- S -
    M-U-R-S - K -
    M-U-R-S-K - ah!

    MURSKA!!!
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    Hmmm, if February the 22nd is still free I would like to claim it for WW Classic X. And I need a co-narrator for that, since it's classic I would prefer someone who's new with WWs and want to experience narrating one. Could be two co-narrators, too.
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    Classic has been added to the schedule. Prospective co-narrators apply here!
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    Well, rakoon is on the board, I have space for one more...
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    Hmm. I'll be in the midst of being on tour at that point, Petey. Not much time to play, but long drives to write scenes.

    How about it?

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    Hmm. I'll be in the midst of being on tour at that point, Petey. Not much time to play, but long drives to write scenes.

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    The first free spot is May 3rd? Can I grab that? I have an idea for a werewolf-style game that I would like to try out.

    There are three teams, one good and two bad. Each bad team is called a "cult", but no cult member knows the identity of any other cult member (except for the leader, who starts out knowing one of their cult members). A cult wins when the other cult is eradicated and they equal the good team (drawing a blank for the name) in numbers. The good team wins by eliminating both cults. Each cult has the following members.
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    Leader: The leader begins with knowledge of one member of their cult of their choice (chosen by role). Once per night, the leader may choose a player: that player may not be lynched the next day. This ability may only be used once on any given player. The leader scries as a villager, except to their own plotter. (Alpha)
    Plotter: The plotter may select one player each night. The plotter learns that player's role but not their cult affiliation (if any). (Devil)
    Mystic: The mystic may, once per night, send a message to all members of their cult. This message is PMed to the narrator, and passed on at the end of the night phase: it may not openly reveal the mystic's identity. It may, however, inform the cult of the identity of another member. (special)
    Novices: Each cult has three novices. They have no special powers. (Wolf)


    Team good has the following members:
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    Sheriff: The sheriff's identity is openly known. If he is night killed, one person who voted to kill him is revealed.
    Expert: The expert may, once per night, pick a player by PMing the narrator. Their choice is openly named, and the expert learns their identity. (Seer)
    Plucky Kid: The plucky kid's identity is unknown, even to them. When the plucky kid would be killed, they are instead revealed to be the plucky kid. The second time that they would be killed, they die.
    Big Guy: The big guy may pick one player each night (including themselves). That player is protected from night kills for that night. (Baner)
    Townspeople: Just townspeople in the midst of the cultist menace. (Villager)


    Day phase goes as normal. During the night phase, all night actions are sent in, and the cultists vote on who to kill. Each cult's votes are counted separately, and so two people are night-killed each night (unless they agree).

    Thoughts?

    EDIT: Also, the spreadsheet linked to in the OPs gives me a 404 error. Anyone else have that problem?
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    Yes, it seems to have gone since the last time I looked (I don't use it anyway).
    I've added a note to the relevant post to this effect.

    @Random: Do you have a name for this game of yours that I can put in the schedule?
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    Um. Not as such. Let's call it Cults for now, and I'll try to think of a better name.
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    The first free spot is May 3rd? Can I grab that? I have an idea for a werewolf-style game that I would like to try out.

    There are three teams, one good and two bad. Each bad team is called a "cult", but no cult member knows the identity of any other cult member (except for the leader, who starts out knowing one of their cult members). A cult wins when the other cult is eradicated and they equal the good team (drawing a blank for the name) in numbers. The good team wins by eliminating both cults. Each cult has the following members.
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    Leader: The leader begins with knowledge of one member of their cult of their choice (chosen by role). Once per night, the leader may choose a player: that player may not be lynched the next day. This ability may only be used once on any given player. The leader scries as a villager, except to their own plotter. (Alpha)
    Plotter: The plotter may select one player each night. The plotter learns that player's role but not their cult affiliation (if any). (Devil)
    Mystic: The mystic may, once per night, send a message to all members of their cult. This message is PMed to the narrator, and passed on at the end of the night phase: it may not openly reveal the mystic's identity. It may, however, inform the cult of the identity of another member. (special)
    Novices: Each cult has three novices. They have no special powers. (Wolf)


    Team good has the following members:
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    Sheriff: The sheriff's identity is openly known. If he is night killed, one person who voted to kill him is revealed.
    Expert: The expert may, once per night, pick a player by PMing the narrator. Their choice is openly named, and the expert learns their identity. (Seer)
    Plucky Kid: The plucky kid's identity is unknown, even to them. When the plucky kid would be killed, they are instead revealed to be the plucky kid. The second time that they would be killed, they die.
    Big Guy: The big guy may pick one player each night (including themselves). That player is protected from night kills for that night. (Baner)
    Townspeople: Just townspeople in the midst of the cultist menace. (Villager)


    Day phase goes as normal. During the night phase, all night actions are sent in, and the cultists vote on who to kill. Each cult's votes are counted separately, and so two people are night-killed each night (unless they agree).

    Thoughts?

    EDIT: Also, the spreadsheet linked to in the OPs gives me a 404 error. Anyone else have that problem?
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    The Mystic reminds me of Spytrap's infiltrator, who could freely send coded messages that no one but the wolves and a single good power role could decode. The Mystic as it stands, though, seems a little too prone to obsoleting itself – I can see the mystic sending a message to the wolves saying, "if someone sends you the following PM, they're me, so send them a PM with the word 'swordfish' in it", proceeding to send that PM to random people, and, once a wolf saw that PM, the two would get in touch and the Mystic could tell all the wolves to contact the second player. So, cool idea, but might need some work.
    The Sheriff – Guh. Just begging to be broken. Protected by the baner every night, instantly in contact with the Seer… seems like a recipe for instant Team-Good networking to me.
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    Hm. You have a point about the Mystic: do you have any idea how to fix it?

    As to the sheriff: How about instead I make him immune to lynching, don't reveal his identity, and keep the night-kill power?
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    The Mystic? Two ideas: take a leaf from Spytrap and let him send unlimited messages to players of his choice but only let the wolves and a single good power role understand them, OR have there be both a good and evil version of the Mystic who can send messages to individual players (maybe unlimited?), but the reader doesn't know their source. Sure the respective Mystic can claim Role X, but the reader has no way of knowing for sure.
    As long as the Sherrif looses the whole "confirmed at start" bit, he's fine.
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    Speaking of Spytrap... after what I believe to be three dates wasted, I think I'm finally ready to run it's fifth itteration. Hopefully my resolve won't wane until March 15, which I see is the first free date avaible. Or am I missing something again?

    Regardless, put me on the first free slot with Spytrap V. I'm hoping to do something different than the whole WW II gig this time, but we'll see as the time comes.
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    I'd like to book May 17, please.

    I have something in mind, but I'm not sure how it'll go. Since it's 5 months away, I guess there's no harm in booking it, so let's go ahead and do that.

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    OK, revised roles for my game.

    Cults
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    Leader: The leader begins with knowledge of one member of their cult of their choice (chosen by role). Once per night, the leader may choose a player: that player may not be lynched the next day. This ability may only be used once on any given player. The leader scries as a villager, except to their own plotter. (Alpha)
    Plotter: The plotter may select one player each night. The plotter learns that player's role but not their cult affiliation (if any). (Devil)
    Mystic: The mystic may, once per night, send a message to all members of their cult. This message is PMed to the narrator, and passed on at the end of the night phase: it may not openly reveal the mystic's identity. It may, however, inform the cult of the identity of another member. (special)
    Novices: Each cult has three novices. They have no special powers. (Wolf)


    Team good:
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    Sheriff: If the sheriff is night killed, one person who voted to kill him is revealed. (special)
    Expert: The expert may, once per night, pick a player by PMing the narrator. Their choice is openly named, and the expert learns their identity. (Seer)
    Plucky Kid: The plucky kid's identity is unknown, even to them. When the plucky kid would be killed, they are instead revealed to be the plucky kid. The second time that they would be killed, they die.
    Big Guy: The big guy may pick one player each night (including themselves). That player is protected from night kills for that night. (Baner)
    Medium: The medium may, once per night, send a secret message to each cult. These messages are sent the same way as the mystics' messages, and can be different.
    Townspeople: Just townspeople in the midst of the cultist menace. (Villager)


    Any more balance issues? I may come up with more roles if I feel like it.
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    Yes - in my opinion, you're doing it the wrong way. It doesn't matter what kind of roles your game has, they need to pass only two checks: A) Is the role fun? B) Is is destabilizing, is so, in what way, and what can you do to counter it?

    Note that destabilizing roles are common, and are not necessarily bad - both baner/voider and seer/shadow combos are destabilizing, yet keep each other in check.

    So, look at the big picture, think who can destabilize game in what ways, then add/cut as needed.

    Note that even best balance can't possibly work, as the players themselves are imbalanced (better/worse). Say, in one *cough* recent game all the balance in the world, including a few hidden, deliberate checks didn't changed the fact that a certain strong player team rolled for one group almost effortlessly kicked the others even with subpar abilities because the rest didn't really felt like using tools being given to them
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